[B-Greek] "result" expressed by adverbial participles?
Dr. Don Wilkins
drdwilkins at verizon.net
Tue Apr 20 19:21:59 EDT 2010
Thanks, Elizabeth. It looks like we have common ground here, at
least. To me, BDF is not particularly difficult, nor even long as a
reference grammar. ATR's historical Grammar and the multi-volume set
originally under Moulton are more impressive and challenging. And I
agree with Carl Conrad in preferring Smyth's Grammar (just 784 pp.
including indices etc.) overall. So I hope you're right about Hoyle's
paper having about one-tenth the number of obscure terms found in
BDF. Should be a snap, unless I need to read the entire work (847
pp.). But if you need explanations for any old-school terms, feel
free to ask any old codger on b-greek. I'm sure someone will be happy
to respond. We're even happy to hear suggestions on how to improve
old-school meta language (i.e. improve, not just change). How about
the same for terms like "grammaticalize" and "prenuclear"? Thanks for
the hint about the latter, BTW; in an ordinary context I might have
thought you were talking about pre-World War 2 history.
Don Wilkins
On Apr 20, 2010, at 3:42 PM, Elizabeth Kline wrote:
>
> On Apr 20, 2010, at 3:33 PM, Dr. Don Wilkins wrote:
>
>> Very well. I for one will. But this challenge sounds very much
>> like one scholar demanding those in other fields to master the
>> literature of her own, with its own specialized vocabulary, or
>> else go home and mind their own business.
>
> Thank you Don,
>
> I have owned BDF for decades, it is almost impossible to read, has
> it's own meta language that is at least 10 times as large (number
> of obscure terms) than Hoyle's paper which is probably the most
> lucid work I have read on NT text linguistics. Steve made this
> point already, we all use meta language. I find posts which use old
> school grammar meta language very difficult to comprehend. One of
> the reason's I talk here much is I just don't have clue what people
> are getting at half the time.
>
> greetings,
>
> Elizabeth Kline
>
>
>
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