[B-Greek] Definitions and educational value
Mark Lightman
lightmanmark at yahoo.com
Fri Feb 26 08:03:12 EST 2010
Χαιρε, Νικολαε
Hi, Niko,
Niko wrote:
<The additional composition in a language similar
to the NT is an advance
exercise and can be useful, but only when
one is very comfortable with the
sound and the text of the language.
As always, advance matters are what
the word implies, advanced. Not for all
and not for all times and just
for a well defined purpose.>
I sort of agree with this and I think Randall made the
same point when he commented on my order of
G.A.L.A. I only started writing in Koine after I had
read a lot and listened to a lot. I'm not sure at
what point writing should be introduced. Carl has
made the case the earlier generations learned Greek
better because they did more composition. Maybe
they did this only as advanced students? I'm
trying to get beginners to start writing on Dialogos to
see how much it will help their Greek. It's an open
question in my mind.
παλιν εγαψας
PALIN EGRAYAS
<Greek is a living language, and as such has many forms.
I do not think anyone
in a good faith makes an issue on this matter anymore.
One of those
forms, the ecclesiastical Greek, still in use, is very close
to the language of
the Bible. But it is not for all forms of communication of a daily
life.>
That's why I love having you on Dialogos. Your
Koine Greek, wherever you learned it, is
intelligible to those of us who know no Modern
Greek. I've been trying to find stuff on You Tube
of Native Greeks speaking Koine as a Living
Language. Not much luck so far, but if anyone
finds anything, please pass it along.
τριτον εγαψας
a third time you egrapsed
<I did not see anyone, American or other English
native speaker, to communicate
in Shakespearean English even as and exercise.>
I used to think this too, in my salad days, when
I was green in judgment. Remember that much
of what I say is strange. Therefore as a stranger
give it welcome. As one guy said to me off-list:
"Your posts remind me of the tale told by the
proverbial IDIWTHS--they are full of sound and
fury but they signify nothing." Another said:
"Lightman, your posts are too long. More matter
and less art, please." One guy said "When I
read your e-missives that seem to go on and on
without making much of a point, I say 'Be not
so long to speak. I long to die.'" To which
I said, "Seems? Nay, 'tis I know not 'seems...'"
Stuff like that. :)
Mark L
FWSFOROS MARKOS
Χαιρε, Νικολαε
Hi, Niko,
Niko wrote:
<The additional composition in a language similar
to the NT is an advance
exercise and can be useful, but only when
one is very comfortable with the
sound and the text of the language.
As always, advance matters are what
the word implies, advanced. Not for all
and not for all times and just
for a well defined purpose.>
I sort of agree with this and I think Randall made the
same point when he commented on my order of
G.A.L.A. I only started writing in Koine after I had
read a lot and listened to a lot. I'm not sure at
what point writing should be introduced. Carl has
made the case the earlier generations learned Greek
better because they did more composition. Maybe
they did this only as advanced students? I'm
trying to get beginners to start writing on Dialogos to
see how much it will help their Greek. It's an open
question in my mind.
παλιν εγαψας
PALIN EGRAYAS
<Greek is a living language, and as such has many forms.
I do not think anyone
in a good faith makes an issue on this matter anymore.
One of those
forms, the ecclesiastical Greek, still in use, is very close
to the language of
the Bible. But it is not for all forms of communication of a daily
life.>
That's why I love having you on Dialogos. Your
Koine Greek, wherever you learned it, is
intelligible to those of us who know no Modern
Greek. I've been trying to find stuff on You Tube
of Native Greeks speaking Koine as a Living
Language. Not much luck so far, but if anyone
finds anything, please pass it along.
τριτον εγαψας
a third time you egrapsed
<I did not see anyone, American or other English
native speaker, to communicate
in Shakespearean English even as and exercise.>
I used to think this too, in my salad days, when
I was green in judgment. Remember that much
of what I say is strange. Therefore as a stranger
give it welcome. As one guy said to me off-list:
"Your posts remind me of the tale told by the
proverbial IDIWTHS--they are full of sound and
fury but they signify nothing." Another said:
"Lightman, your posts are too long. More matter
and less art, please." One guy said "When I
read your e-missives that seem to go on and on
without making much of a point, I say 'Be not
so long to speak. I long to die.'" To which
I said, "Seems? Nay, 'tis I know not 'seems...'"
Stuff like that. :)
Mark L
FWSFOROS MARKOS
Χαιρε, Νικολαε
Hi, Niko,
Niko wrote:
<The additional composition in a language similar
to the NT is an advance
exercise and can be useful, but only when
one is very comfortable with the
sound and the text of the language.
As always, advance matters are what
the word implies, advanced. Not for all
and not for all times and just
for a well defined purpose.>
I sort of agree with this and I think Randall made the
same point when he commented on my order of
G.A.L.A. I only started writing in Koine after I had
read a lot and listened to a lot. I'm not sure at
what point writing should be introduced. Carl has
made the case the earlier generations learned Greek
better because they did more composition. Maybe
they did this only as advanced students? I'm
trying to get beginners to start writing on Dialogos to
see how much it will help their Greek. It's an open
question in my mind.
παλιν εγαψας
PALIN EGRAYAS
<Greek is a living language, and as such has many forms.
I do not think anyone
in a good faith makes an issue on this matter anymore.
One of those
forms, the ecclesiastical Greek, still in use, is very close
to the language of
the Bible. But it is not for all forms of communication of a daily
life.>
That's why I love having you on Dialogos. Your
Koine Greek, wherever you learned it, is
intelligible to those of us who know no Modern
Greek. I've been trying to find stuff on You Tube
of Native Greeks speaking Koine as a Living
Language. Not much luck so far, but if anyone
finds anything, please pass it along.
τριτον εγαψας
a third time you egrapsed
<I did not see anyone, American or other English
native speaker, to communicate
in Shakespearean English even as and exercise.>
I used to think this too, in my salad days, when
I was green in judgment. Remember that much
of what I say is strange. Therefore as a stranger
give it welcome. As one guy said to me off-list:
"Your posts remind me of the tale told by the
proverbial IDIWTHS--they are full of sound and
fury but they signify nothing." Another said:
"Lightman, your posts are too long. More matter
and less art, please." One guy said "When I
read your e-missives that seem to go on and on
without making much of a point, I say 'Be not
so long to speak. I long to die.'" To which
I said, "Seems? Nay, 'tis I know not 'seems...'"
Stuff like that. :)
Mark L
FWSFOROS MARKOS
Χαιρε, Νικολαε
Hi, Niko,
Niko wrote:
<The additional composition in a language similar
to the NT is an advance
exercise and can be useful, but only when
one is very comfortable with the
sound and the text of the language.
As always, advance matters are what
the word implies, advanced. Not for all
and not for all times and just
for a well defined purpose.>
I sort of agree with this and I think Randall made the
same point when he commented on my order of
G.A.L.A. I only started writing in Koine after I had
read a lot and listened to a lot. I'm not sure at
what point writing should be introduced. Carl has
made the case the earlier generations learned Greek
better because they did more composition. Maybe
they did this only as advanced students? I'm
trying to get beginners to start writing on Dialogos to
see how much it will help their Greek. It's an open
question in my mind.
παλιν εγαψας
PALIN EGRAYAS
<Greek is a living language, and as such has many forms.
I do not think anyone
in a good faith makes an issue on this matter anymore.
One of those
forms, the ecclesiastical Greek, still in use, is very close
to the language of
the Bible. But it is not for all forms of communication of a daily
life.>
That's why I love having you on Dialogos. Your
Koine Greek, wherever you learned it, is
intelligible to those of us who know no Modern
Greek. I've been trying to find stuff on You Tube
of Native Greeks speaking Koine as a Living
Language. Not much luck so far, but if anyone
finds anything, please pass it along.
τριτον εγαψας
a third time you egrapsed
<I did not see anyone, American or other English
native speaker, to communicate
in Shakespearean English even as and exercise.>
I used to think this too, in my salad days, when
I was green in judgment. Remember that much
of what I say is strange. Therefore as a stranger
give it welcome. As one guy said to me off-list:
"Your posts remind me of the tale told by the
proverbial IDIWTHS--they are full of sound and
fury but they signify nothing." Another said:
"Lightman, your posts are too long. More matter
and less art, please." One guy said "When I
read your e-missives that seem to go on and on
without making much of a point, I say 'Be not
so long to speak. I long to die.'" To which
I said, "Seems? Nay, 'tis I know not 'seems...'"
Stuff like that. :)
Mark L
FWSFOROS MARKOS
Χαιρε, Νικολαε
Hi, Niko,
Niko wrote:
<The additional composition in a language similar
to the NT is an advance
exercise and can be useful, but only when
one is very comfortable with the
sound and the text of the language.
As always, advance matters are what
the word implies, advanced. Not for all
and not for all times and just
for a well defined purpose.>
I sort of agree with this and I think Randall made the
same point when he commented on my order of
G.A.L.A. I only started writing in Koine after I had
read a lot and listened to a lot. I'm not sure at
what point writing should be introduced. Carl has
made the case the earlier generations learned Greek
better because they did more composition. Maybe
they did this only as advanced students? I'm
trying to get beginners to start writing on Dialogos to
see how much it will help their Greek. It's an open
question in my mind.
παλιν εγαψας
PALIN EGRAYAS
<Greek is a living language, and as such has many forms.
I do not think anyone
in a good faith makes an issue on this matter anymore.
One of those
forms, the ecclesiastical Greek, still in use, is very close
to the language of
the Bible. But it is not for all forms of communication of a daily
life.>
That's why I love having you on Dialogos. Your
Koine Greek, wherever you learned it, is
intelligible to those of us who know no Modern
Greek. I've been trying to find stuff on You Tube
of Native Greeks speaking Koine as a Living
Language. Not much luck so far, but if anyone
finds anything, please pass it along.
τριτον εγαψας
a third time you egrapsed
<I did not see anyone, American or other English
native speaker, to communicate
in Shakespearean English even as and exercise.>
I used to think this too, in my salad days, when
I was green in judgment. Remember that much
of what I say is strange. Therefore as a stranger
give it welcome. As one guy said to me off-list:
"Your posts remind me of the tale told by the
proverbial IDIWTHS--they are full of sound and
fury but they signify nothing." Another said:
"Lightman, your posts are too long. More matter
and less art, please." One guy said "When I
read your e-missives that seem to go on and on
without making much of a point, I say 'Be not
so long to speak. I long to die.'" To which
I said, "Seems? Nay, 'tis I know not 'seems...'"
Stuff like that. :)
Mark L
FWSFOROS MARKOS
Χαιρε, Νικολαε
Hi, Niko,
Niko wrote:
<The additional composition in a language similar
to the NT is an advance
exercise and can be useful, but only when
one is very comfortable with the
sound and the text of the language.
As always, advance matters are what
the word implies, advanced. Not for all
and not for all times and just
for a well defined purpose.>
I sort of agree with this and I think Randall made the
same point when he commented on my order of
G.A.L.A. I only started writing in Koine after I had
read a lot and listened to a lot. I'm not sure at
what point writing should be introduced. Carl has
made the case the earlier generations learned Greek
better because they did more composition. Maybe
they did this only as advanced students? I'm
trying to get beginners to start writing on Dialogos to
see how much it will help their Greek. It's an open
question in my mind.
παλιν εγαψας
PALIN EGRAYAS
<Greek is a living language, and as such has many forms.
I do not think anyone
in a good faith makes an issue on this matter anymore.
One of those
forms, the ecclesiastical Greek, still in use, is very close
to the language of
the Bible. But it is not for all forms of communication of a daily
life.>
That's why I love having you on Dialogos. Your
Koine Greek, wherever you learned it, is
intelligible to those of us who know no Modern
Greek. I've been trying to find stuff on You Tube
of Native Greeks speaking Koine as a Living
Language. Not much luck so far, but if anyone
finds anything, please pass it along.
τριτον εγαψας
a third time you egrapsed
<I did not see anyone, American or other English
native speaker, to communicate
in Shakespearean English even as and exercise.>
I used to think this too, in my salad days, when
I was green in judgment. Remember that much
of what I say is strange. Therefore as a stranger
give it welcome. As one guy said to me off-list:
"Your posts remind me of the tale told by the
proverbial IDIWTHS--they are full of sound and
fury but they signify nothing." Another said:
"Lightman, your posts are too long. More matter
and less art, please." One guy said "When I
read your e-missives that seem to go on and on
without making much of a point, I say 'Be not
so long to speak. I long to die.'" To which
I said, "Seems? Nay, 'tis I know not 'seems...'"
Stuff like that. :)
Mark L
FWSFOROS MARKOS
Χαιρε, Νικολαε
Hi, Niko,
Niko wrote:
<The additional composition in a language similar
to the NT is an advance
exercise and can be useful, but only when
one is very comfortable with the
sound and the text of the language.
As always, advance matters are what
the word implies, advanced. Not for all
and not for all times and just
for a well defined purpose.>
I sort of agree with this and I think Randall made the
same point when he commented on my order of
G.A.L.A. I only started writing in Koine after I had
read a lot and listened to a lot. I'm not sure at
what point writing should be introduced. Carl has
made the case that earlier generations learned Greek
better because they did more composition. Maybe
they did this only as advanced students? I'm
trying to get beginners to start writing on Dialogos to
see how much it will help their Greek. It's an open
question in my mind. (But don't tell them that.)
παλιν εγαψας
PALIN EGRAYAS
<Greek is a living language, and as such has many forms.
I do not think anyone
in a good faith makes an issue on this matter anymore.
One of those
forms, the ecclesiastical Greek, still in use, is very close
to the language of
the Bible. But it is not for all forms of communication of a daily
life.>
That's why I love having you on Dialogos. Your
Koine Greek, wherever you learned it, is
intelligible to those of us who know no Modern
Greek. I've been trying to find stuff on You Tube
of Native Greeks speaking Koine as a Living
Language. Not much luck so far, but if anyone
finds anything, please pass it along.
τριτον εγαψας
a third time you egrapsed
<I did not see anyone, American or other English
native speaker, to communicate
in Shakespearean English even as and exercise.>
I used to think this too, in my salad days, when
I was green in judgment. Remember that much
of what I say is strange. Therefore as a stranger
give it welcome. As one guy said to me off-list:
"Your posts remind me of the tale told by the
proverbial IDIWTHS--they are full of sound and
fury but they signify nothing." Another said:
"Lightman, your posts are too long. More matter,
with less art, please." One guy said "When I
read your e-missives that seem to go on and on
without making much of a point, I say 'Be not
so long to speak. I long to die.'" To which
I said, "Seems? Nay, 'tis I know not 'seems."
Then quoth he "Aroint thee, thou base knave..."
Stuff like that. :)
Mark L
FWSFOROS MARKOS
Mark L
FWSFOROS MARKOS
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