[B-Greek] Matthew 21:7,8

Michael Aubrey mga318 at yahoo.com
Fri Jan 8 17:04:44 EST 2010


Typo -- Luraghi was published 2003, not 2009.




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From: Michael Aubrey <mga318 at yahoo.com>
To: theomann at comcast.net; bGreek <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 10:20:22 AM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Matthew 21:7,8


>> What distinctions, if any, should be made between EP' 
>> and EPANW, in verse 7, and EN, in verse 8?  Thanks. 

In terms of English translation? None. In terms of Greek? 
The distinction must be made of how the semantics work.

The main challenge isn't the EPANW though, since it 
simply means: "marker of a position relatively higher 
whether contiguous or not" That is to say, the cloaks are 
on the donkey and Jesus is above them, also on the donkey. 
He's higher. One might say that EPANW is unmarked for 
contact with a surface (i.e. there might contact; there might
not be contact. We don't know), whereas EPI is marked for 
contact with a surface.

EPI & EN share a good amount of semantic overlap, so 
these differences have less to do with there being significant 
semantic difference in this particular text and far more to do 
with how the different senses of each preposition relate to 
each other internally.

EPI: "with the genitive can denote Location, with physical 
contact of the trajector with the surface of the landmark, or 
Direction, whereby it implies that the end of motion brings 
the trajector in contact with the landmark" (Silvia Luraghi, 
_On the Meaning of the Prepositions and Cases: The 
Expression of Semantic Roles in Ancient Greek_ 
[Amsterdam: John Benjamin, 2009], 303). The point here is 
that the motion of cloaks ended with the surface of the 
donkey.

EN: "used in location expression in cases where the 
landmark is conceived as a container, which exerts 
dynamic control on the trajector; the area covered by the 
trajector coincides at least partly, with the area covered 
by the landmark." (Luraghi, 93-94). The road as a landmark 
is conceived as a container for the cloaks.

There's nothing fancy, special or exciting going on here, just 
a lot of semantic overlap that's realized as a single word in 
English translations.

Mike Aubrey
http://evepheso.wordpress.com




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From: "theomann at comcast.net" <theomann at comcast.net>
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Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 8:33:59 AM
Subject: [B-Greek] Matthew 21:7,8



What distinctions, if any, should be made between EP' and EPANW, in verse 7, and EN, in verse 8?  Thanks. 



Ted 

Theodore H. Mann 
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