[B-Greek] The last forty four words that Markos will EVER say on the topic of Greek Fluency and Analysis (was My Summer GREEK Need to read list

Mark Lightman lightmanmark at yahoo.com
Sun Jun 6 13:56:24 EDT 2010


Ruth wrote (when I said that if you don't need Analysis to become Fluent in 
English you don't need it to become Fluent in Greek:)

> You are starting from a false assumption.  In my previous job, we 
had to
> apply high standards of English grammar instantly and 
without thought.  We
> needed to know how a clause breaks into 
constituents, where a complement
> starts, etc.  And it was my job to train people to have this skill.  And
> even though we were 
all fluent English speakers -- mostly mother-tongue
> speakers -- 
this was something that we all had to LEARN to do to the level
> 
required.  And I found that my ability to train people into the job was
> greatly enhanced by looking at English grammars and style manuals.  In 
fact,
> I wish that 10 years ago I had the level of knowledge of 
linguistics that I
> have now.  It would have saved me a lot of 
blundering around in the dark,
> sensing what I wanted to teach 
people without having a clear perception of
> it.

Hi, Ruth,

You are absolutely correct here.  This is an instance where my premise was faulty but
my conclusion was spot on valid.

THESE ARE THE LAST FORTY FOUR WORDS THAT I WILL EVER WRITE ON THE
TOPIC OF GREEK FLUENCY AND ANALYSIS:


Linguistic or Grammatical Analysis is to Greek Fluency what club soda is to inebriation;
there is a theory that the bubbles make you get drunk faster, but

a.  This is just a theory.
b.  This is not why most people put club soda in their Scotch. 

 Mark L
Φωσφορος



FWSFOROS MARKOS




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From: Carl Conrad <cwconrad2 at mac.com>
To: B-Greek <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Cc: Ruth Mathys <c-r.mathys at sil.org.pg>
Sent: Sun, June 6, 2010 4:12:55 AM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] My Summer GREEK Need to read list

Begin forwarded message:
> 
> Forwarded for: Calvin & Ruth Mathys <c-r.mathys at sil.org.pg>
> Date: June 5, 2010 11:24:37 PM EDT
> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] My Summer GREEK Need to read list
> 
> On 6/06/10 12:09 PM, "Mark Lightman" <lightmanmark at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> But I will just say something that has been said many
>> times on this list in many ways.  If none
> of us ever improved our ability to
>> read or use English by reading a book ABOUT  English, why in the
> world do we
>> think we need these books ABOUT Greek to improve our ability to read or use
>> Greek?
> How did THIS oozing spill of never ending analysis get started and how
>> do we stop it?
> 
> You are starting from a false assumption.  In my previous job, we had to
> apply high standards of English grammar instantly and without thought.  We
> needed to know how a clause breaks into constituents, where a complement
> starts, etc.  And it was my job to train people to have this skill.  And
> even though we were all fluent English speakers -- mostly mother-tongue
> speakers -- this was something that we all had to LEARN to do to the level
> required.  And I found that my ability to train people into the job was
> greatly enhanced by looking at English grammars and style manuals.  In fact,
> I wish that 10 years ago I had the level of knowledge of linguistics that I
> have now.  It would have saved me a lot of blundering around in the dark,
> sensing what I wanted to teach people without having a clear perception of
> it.
> 
> When it comes to Greek, well, I confess I'm not nearly as well-read as I
> should be.  Even so, I find the NT reasonably comfortable to read.  The
> reason I still use grammars and dictionaries is that I keep getting things
> wrong.
> 
> Ruth Mathys 
> 
> 


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