[B-Greek] Is a Phrasal Interlinear a useful idea?

Jack Kilmon jkilmon at historian.net
Sun Jun 20 09:45:59 EDT 2010


I don't agree, George.  I began learning Greek at Johns Hopkins when I was 
12 and used an interlinear that followed the exact syntax as the Greek 
rather than in English word order.  Over the years I have found the same 
tool for Hebrew, Aramaic, Coptic and Middle Egyptian, even Mandarin, to be 
very useful.  I think that learning a language is different for all students 
of that language and the paths taken can be unique for each student. 
Syntactic word and phrase ordered interlinear texts visually demonstrate the 
structure of the language being studied but may not have been useful for you 
as an individual.  IMO, that's the key.  Language learning has much to do 
with brain networking and everyone is different and can respond to various 
methods.

Jack

Jack Kilmon
San Antonio, TX



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From: "George F Somsel" <gfsomsel at yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 8:28 AM
To: <nigel at chapman.id.au>; "B Greek" <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Is a Phrasal Interlinear a useful idea?

> Any interlinear is NOT a useful idea.  An interlinear inherently depresses 
> the learning of the language.  If you must have a translation handy, put 
> it under your Greek text.  It should not assault your eyes when reading 
> Greek.
>  george
> gfsomsel
>
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> From: Nigel Chapman <nigel at chapman.id.au>
> To: B Greek <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Sun, June 20, 2010 4:09:52 AM
> Subject: [B-Greek] Is a Phrasal Interlinear a useful idea?
>
> Hi all,
>
> I've been tinkering with the idea of a 'phrasal interlinear' for a while;
> translating at the ideas level, while still (like an interlinear), keeping
> the words in the same order, to produce a set of glosses.
>
> This can't easily be illustrated in a text email, so here are some I
> prepared earlier...
>
> http://jesus.com.au/comment/reference/php+1
>
> (I note that my translation skills may not be the best you'll see; this is
> more an illustration than a public service at present.)
>
>
> BENEFITS
>
> - More contextual and grammatical than a normal interlinear.
>
> - When entered in a computer system, this creates a body of equivalent
> expressions, which can be used in quizzes and drills, or to illustrate the
> usage of words.
>
> - Easy to read and edit via Wiki-style formatting.
>
>
> DRAWBACKS
>
> - Still artificial, since you'll often want to move a word more than 5-6
> places for a smooth English translation, and glossing doesn't easily
> accommodate this. I've considered other syntaxes for marking up arbitrary
> word connections, but they add complexity; -- see:
>
> http://jesus.com.au/help/formatting (skim down to 'TRANSLATION')
>
>
> Q. Are there benefits and drawbacks that I haven't thought of?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -- 
> Nigel Chapman, Sydney AU
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