[B-Greek] Song or Songs?
George F Somsel
gfsomsel at yahoo.com
Wed Jun 23 08:24:59 EDT 2010
καὶ ᾄδουσιν τὴν ᾠδὴν Μωϋσέως τοῦ δούλου τοῦ θεοῦ καὶ τὴν ᾠδὴν τοῦ ἀρνίου λέγοντες·
KAI AiDOUSIN THN WiDHN MWÜSEWS TOU DOULOU TOU QEOIU KAI THN WiDHN TOU ARNIOU LEGONTES
"John's" syntax sometimes seems sui generis (which it is indeed). I don't think one can resolve this on the basis of Granviille Sharp however much one might like to do so. Distinguishing when KAI functions as a true conjunction and when it is more of a particle is sometimes troublesome. I wouldn't pretend to have the answer to that question, but what Moulton-Howard-Turner has to say regarding the epexegetical KAI is perhaps somewhat helpful.
"2. The adverbial or epexegeticalκαί(that is, even): Mk 1:19Lk 3:18Jn 1:16(that is, to receive grace upon grace) 20:30, Ac 22:25, καὶ ἀκατάκριτονand uncondemned at that), Ro 1:5(that is, apostleship, or hendiadys?: grace of apostleship), 13:11idque, 1 Co 2:2et quidem, 6:6–8, Eph 2:8. It is pleonastic before a second adj., esp. after πολύς: Lk 3:18Jn 20:30Ac 25:7Ti 1:10vl. The original meaning of καί, before it became also merely a coordinating particle, was also, as in Ro 8:17εἰ δὲ τέκνα, καί κληρόνομοι, Ph 4:3. This appears with pronouns frequently: Mt 2:8κἀγώI too, Lk 14:12Jn 7:47; Ro 8:24S ὃ γὰρ βλέπει, τίς καὶ ὑπομένειwho needs also to wait for that which he sees?(p46B*DFG misunderstood and omitted καί). And with adverbs of comparison: Ac 11:17ὡς καί, Ro 15:7καθὼς καί. And after other particles: Lk 24:22ἀλλὰ καίsed etiam."
Moulton, J. H., & Turner, N. (1963). A grammar of New Testament Greek, Volume 3: Syntax. Vol. 1: 2d ed., with corrections and additions. (335). Edinburgh: T. & T. Clark.
george
gfsomsel
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From: John Calvin Hall <johncalvinhall at gmail.com>
To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Wed, June 23, 2010 12:57:08 AM
Subject: [B-Greek] Song or Songs?
Hello All,
While doing my class preps, I thought the phrase in Revelation 15:3, "And
they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb"
was an example of a Granville-Sharp, but taking a closer look at it, the
accusative nouns both have articles.
I have always thought that this is a single 'song', but am not sure if this
can be proven in the Greek. NIGTC (quoting Satake, Gemeindeordnung, p.94.)
states that this is an Epexegetical KAI, but is this not an interpretation?
Is there a mechanical law for defining Epexegetical KAIs?
Is there anyone more knowledgeable on this subject that could render
assistance? Is this one song or two?
Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks ahead of time!
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Respectfully,
John Calvin Hall
Twin Falls, Idaho 83301
johncalvinhall at gmail.com
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