[B-Greek] papyrus p66c
Iver Larsen
iver_larsen at sil.org
Thu Nov 18 08:12:54 EST 2010
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From: <susan at read-the-bible.org>
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Subject: Re: [B-Greek] papyrus p66c
> and a fourth question:
>
> Farther down in the same UBS4 GNT John 2:12 textual apparatus entry, a
> different textual variant lists P66*. What's the "*"?
>
> Thanks in advance --
>
> Susan Jeffers
>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: [B-Greek] papyrus p66c
>> From: <susan at read-the-bible.org>
>> Date: Thu, November 18, 2010 4:24 am
>> To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
>>
>>
>> Greetings b-greekers --
>>
>> I am looking at the textual note for John 2:12 in my UBS GNT, 4th
>> revised edition.
>>
>> The first manuscript listed for the first variant is a curlicue P
>> (meaning papyrus) with superscript 66c.
>>
>> I see P66 in the table at the front of the book, but I'm wondering about
>> the "c." For "Location" the table says "Cologny; Dublin; Cologne."
>> Does the "c" by chance mean that the papyrus is extant in three parts,
>> in three places? And the part including John 2:12 is in Cologne?
>>
>> I googled P66 and found a wikipedia reference to the Bodner Papyrii, of
>> which P66 is evidently one, but I find no clue as to P66c. Also, the
>> wikipedia article says P66 is in Cologny, Switzerland; nothing about
>> Dublin or Cologne.
>>
>> I can't find anything in the introduction that explains this particular
>> point, or I guess now I have 2 questions:
>>
>> (1) what does the "c" in "P66c" mean and
>> (2) what do the other 2 locations "Dublin" and "Cologne" signify, for
>> P66?
According to Comfort and Barratt, the manuscript is housed as follows:
Cologny-Geneva, Switzerland: Bibliotheca Bodmeriana (P. Bodmer II); one leaf is
in Cologne, Germany: Institut für Altertumskunde der Universität zu Köln (inv.
nr. 4274/4298).
So, one leaf is in Köln, Germany, the rest in Geneva. I don't where Dublin comes
in. Maybe there is a copy there in the Chester Beatty Library. Looking at their
website, I can see that they have p45, p46 and p47, but I do not find a
reference to p66.
http://www.cbl.ie/Collections/The-Western-Collection/Papyri/Biblical.aspx
Comfort and Barratt also say that "P66 has preserved the work of three
individuals: the original scribe, a thoroughgoing corrector (diorthōtēs), and a
minor corrector."
P66 is known for it many corrections. The original or first writing is called
P66*. As the scribe was writing, he would at times discover a mistake in the
middle of word, then erase one or more letters and continue writing. Then
someone went over the ms again carefully and made hundreds of corrections. James
Royse believes that it was the scribe himself who afterwards corrected his own
work. Philip Comfort and others think it was a different, more careful person.
In any case, there seems to also have been a third person later making some few
adjustments. P66c refers to the corrected version.
In the case of John 2:12, the first writing did not include the word AUTOU after
ADELFOI, but the diorthōtēs then inserted the word between the lines. The
reading without AUTOU is also found in p75, a close relative of p66 from the
same area but made a few decades later. B is also lacking AUTOU, but B seems to
be dependent on p75, at least there is a lot of agreements between them.
>>
>> And a third:
>>
>> (3) is there a good online master cross-reference to the ancient
>> manuscripts listed in my GNT? trying to google e.g. "P66 papyrus
>> Dublin" is opening a can of worms... I found K C Hanson's list at
>> http://www.kchanson.com/papyri.html
>> but it only lists P66 at Cologny...
I don't know.
>>
>> Thanks so much for your help!
>>
>> Susan Jeffers
>>
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