[B-Greek] Arthur Way and 1 Tim 2:15
George F Somsel
gfsomsel at yahoo.com
Fri Nov 19 15:05:05 EST 2010
Mark's take on ἡ γυνὴ hH GUNH is interesting and would seem to take into
consideration the context of the passage. As regards σωθήσεται SWQHSETAI, the
passive of σῳζω SWiZW does appear in the LXX a number of times. I point to one
such instance in Gen 19.20
20ἰδοὺ ἡ πόλις αὕτη ἐγγὺς τοῦ καταφυγεῖν με ἐκεῖ, ἥ ἐστιν μικρά, ἐκεῖ σωθήσομαι,
οὐ μικρά ἐστιν; καὶ ζήσεται ἡ ψυχή μου.
20 IDOU hH POLIS hAUTH EGGUS TOU KATAFUGEIN ME EKEI, hH ESTIN MIKRA, EKEI
SWQHSOMAI, OU MIKRA ESTIN? ZHSETAI hH YUXH MOU.
I'll give Brenton's translation as well as the NETS translation to avoid
suspicion that I am injecting my personal view here.
Brenton Behold this city is near for me to escape thither, which is a small one,
and there shall I be preserved, is it not little? and my soul shall live because
of thee.
NETS
20 Look, this city, which is small is near enough for me to flee for refuge
there; I shall escape there. Is it not small? And my soul shall live!
george
gfsomsel
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From: Carl Conrad <cwconrad2 at mac.com>
To: Mark Lightman <lightmanmark at yahoo.com>
Cc: B-Greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Fri, November 19, 2010 12:34:09 PM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Arthur Way and 1 Tim 2:15
On Nov 19, 2010, at 9:05 AM, Mark Lightman wrote:
> I understand the subject of σωθησεται to be Eve, and construe the verb not as a
>
> passive, but as a middle with active force. I would english the verse as
>
> "But she (Eve) will provide salvation through the birth of the child (Jesus) if
>
> they (Christian women) remain in faith and love and holy self control."
I have nothing to add to clarify the matter of the meaning of 1 Tim 2:15,
but I don't think that construing SWQHESTAI (σωθήσεται) as "middle
with active sense" is an option. So far as I can see, SWZW is a transitive
verb and requires an object. I can see the active being used intransitively
in the sense of "be a savior" but I really can't see how the middle would
be used that way.
Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)
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