[B-Greek] Hebrews 6:1 - let us go on unto perfection

schmuel schmuel at nyc.rr.com
Mon Nov 22 11:27:40 EST 2010


Hi Folks,

In the historical archives I noticed that there is a fair amount of 
discussion on the forum over the years about the "divine passive" and 
related considerations. Including the general uses and 
misunderstandings of the "passive voice" in translation.  Our 
esteemed moderator, Carl W. Conrad, has written quite interestingly 
on the topic. However, I will not consider any previous quotes, since 
I want to ask this question on a tabula rosa.

Lately in recent years, (since 1991) this verse has been translated 
in a passive English form in a couple of new versions.

DIO AFENTES TON THS ARCHS TOU CRISTOU LOGON EPI THN TELEIOTHTA 
FERWMEQA MH PALIN QEMELION ATABALLOMENOI

Hebrews 6:1 (KJB)
Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ,
let us go on unto perfection;
not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works,
and of faith toward God,

with expressions like :

"and be taken forward to maturity' - TNIV

There clearly can be a lot of elements, interpretative as well as 
translational, involved in the decision.  (The two are sometimes 
intermixed.) So I would simply appreciate the ideas of some of our 
experts as to the translational elements involved.

Thanks !

Shalom,
Steven Avery
Queens, NY




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