[B-Greek] Aorist Middle/Passive
Mark Lightman
lightmanmark at yahoo.com
Mon Oct 11 22:29:46 EDT 2010
I agree with Carl that Palmer has come up with a very good chapter here. I like
his terms. He uses σα/ο/e Middle-Passive and (θ)η Middle-Passive instead of the
"Aorist Middle" and "Aorist Passive" of most textbooks. Instead of "deponent" he
uses "lexical middles." Everyone should take this simple sentence from Palmer
"...we see that the context determines whether the sense is middle or passive.
The form does not clearly indicate this."
and write it into whatever text they are using in the place where these forms
are discussed.
I browsed through Palmer's other chapters and I like what I saw. He uses some
linguistic jargon but does so sparingly, and in the interest of explaining the
grammar. He includes links to flash cards and interactive quizzes. Like Mounce,
he makes good use of different colors in his paradigms. His readings are taken
directly from the Greek NT.
It's been said that the ratio of Greek grammars to Greek teachers is 10 to 9.
That's fine with me, and this is a good one.
Thanks for bringing this to our attention, Carl.
Carl wrote
<νῦν ἀπολύεις τὸν δοῦλόν σου, δέσποτα ...>
Ah yes. The text says Simeon asks permission to depart. It does not say
whether it was given. I speak for the entire list when I say to you instead
μεῖνον μεθ' ἡμῶν. (MEINON MEQ' hHMWN)
Mark L
Φωσφορος
FWSFOROS MARKOS
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From: Carl Conrad <cwconrad2 at mac.com>
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Sent: Mon, October 11, 2010 7:07:49 AM
Subject: [B-Greek] Aorist Middle/Passive
νῦν ἀπολύεις τὸν δοῦλόν σου, δέσποτα ...
[NUN APOLUEIS TON DOULON SOU, DESPOTA ... ]
I've long hoped for this but despaired of seeing it in my lifetime:
τῷ γραμματικῷ σοφῷ χάριν οἶδα πλείστην.
[TWi GRAMMATIKWi SOFWi CARIN OIDA PLEISTHN]
Mine eyes have seen the aorist middle/passive presented in a
Hellenistic fashion in the manner I have long thought it deserves
to be presented. Micheal Palmer has done it; it's part of his
online Koine Greek Grammar, a commendable and very
fine piece of work. Check it out
http://greek-language.com/grammar/21.html
Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)
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