[B-Greek] Here we go again (Luke 22:70)
Blue Meeksbay
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Sat Oct 30 10:11:12 EDT 2010
Ancient Greek Joke
Mortal: What is a million years like to you?
Zeus: Like one second.
Mortal: What is a million dollars like to you?
Zeus: Like one penny.
Mortal: Can I have a million dollars?
Zeus: Just a second...
Hi Mark,
I just stumbled across this book on google by A.T. Robertson: The student's
chronological New Testament: text of the American Standard.
http://books.google.com/books?id=_-4oAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA18&lpg=PA18&dq=luke+22:70+%22because+i+am%22&source=bl&ots=4FG6ER32JO&sig=DMYL0fyrbd6G2UYehOqFIsbNGd0&hl=en&ei=eSLMTITaPIHmsQOu2O2FDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CDAQ6AEwCTgK#v=onepage&q=luke%2022%3A70%20%22because%20i%20am%22&f=false
The note under Luke 22:70 says, *Or, Ye say it, because I am.* At first I
thought it was a note by Robertson, but I think it is just the note of the
translators of the 1901 American Standard Version.
Per your suggestion, maybe in Luke we have the mocking referred to in Psalm 2:4.
: > )
PARESTHSAN hOI BASILEIS THS GHS KAI hOI ARCONTES SUNHCQHSAN EPI TO AUTO KATA TOU
KURIOU KAI KATA TOU CRISTOU AUTOU DIAYALMA
hO KATOIKWN EN OURANOIS EKGELASETAI AUTOUS KAI hO KURIOS EKMUKTHRIEI AUTOUS
Psalm 2:2,4
The kings of the earth stood up, and the rulers gathered themselves together,
against the Lord, and against his Christ;
He that dwells in the heavens shall laugh them to scorn, and the Lord shall mock
them. Psalm 2:2,4
Best regards,
Blue Harris
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From: Mark Lightman <lightmanmark at yahoo.com>
To: Blue Meeksbay <bluemeeksbay at yahoo.com>; b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Fri, October 29, 2010 6:03:19 PM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Here we go again (Luke 22:70)
"There you go again..."
Ronald Reagan, October, 1980.
Blue wrote:
<maybe Luke is actually
having Jesus reply, *You speak, because I am [he].>
Hi, Blue,
If true, this would be a type of pun on the word ὅτι. Your argument would be
stronger if John were the writer, where these types of double meanings are more
common. Joking around with people who are thinking about putting you to death
is a Greek tradition as old as Socrates, so maybe Luke is having a little fun
here.
Mark L
Φωσφορος
FWSFOROS MARKOS
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From: Blue Meeksbay <bluemeeksbay at yahoo.com>
To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Fri, October 29, 2010 10:22:24 AM
Subject: [B-Greek] Here we go again (Luke 22:70)
On Thu Aug 11 06:53:09 EDT 2005 Carl Conrad wrote:
Here we go again: I'm not complaining, just commenting. Seems to me
this is a question that won't ever be resolved to everyone's
satisfaction. Some are fully confident that they know exactly what
this means while others (myself included) can only admit to endless
puzzlement. My own inclination (not by any means a firm conclusion)
is that the ambiguity is intentional.
This was found in the archives. For those who may not know, (I did not know
until Carl did one of his helpful posts), the archives can be found at
http://www.ibiblio.org/bgreek/archives/index.html%C2%A0%C2%A0
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