[B-Greek] Vasile's Greek audio drills (was Jesus of Nazareth (Movie) in Greek?)
Mark Lightman
lightmanmark at yahoo.com
Tue Sep 14 08:43:49 EDT 2010
χαιρε Βασιλειε
CAIRE BASILEIE
Hi, Vasile,
I just listened to your audio drills. Absolutely fantastic! I love the way you
include both slow and fast readings. All the repetitions are very helpful, as
is having a text available with a nice large font.
Listening to Greek takes lots of practice, and this is a wonderful contribution.
I like the idea of producing similar audio drills for the Movie ahead of time.
This would help both the readers who produce them and the audience of the Movie
once it is shown. Projects like this always help the producers as much as, if
not more than, the audience.
Mark L
FWSFOROS MARKOS
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From: Vasile STANCU <stancu at mail.dnttm.ro>
To: Mark Lightman <lightmanmark at yahoo.com>; Louis Sorenson
<llsorenson at hotmail.com>; B-Greek List mail to all <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Tue, September 14, 2010 1:22:43 AM
Subject: RE: [B-Greek] Jesus of Nazareth (Movie) in Greek?
Whatever the technical difficulties, whether related to copyright restrictions
or tech issues, I believe some preparation beforehand could be worthwhile. What
I have in mind is some exercises, similar to those that are currently attended
by B-Greek members, but focused this time on pronounciation. Perhaps someone
would be ready to moderate such series.
Some time ago, while participating in a JACT series, I proposed (unsuccessfuly
though) that audio files should be added by each participant along with the
translation assignment, as shown below:
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#Section 5A - lines 1-25
#VXS Strepsiades happens to be upset because he owes a lot of money. (audio
sample: http://stancu.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/jact-5a-01.mp3)
#VXS For his son, being a horse maniac, always takes a lot of money. (audio
sample: http://stancu.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/jact-5a-02.mp3)
#VXS Now the son is just sleeping deeply, the father doesn't have sleep. (audio
sample: http://stancu.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/jact-5a-03.mp3)
#VXS Oh, my! Oh, King Zeus! The length of the night, how much it is! And the day
is not yet coming. (audio sample:
http://stancu.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/jact-5a-04.mp3)
#VXS Oh, unhappy me! And the deep sleep is not yet holding me. Sleepless I am,
poor me. And sleepless being, the debts are biting me, heavy as they are. (audio
sample: http://stancu.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/jact-5a-05.mp3)
#VXS For I owe a lot of money because of this son, and being in debt the
creditors are chasing me and they always take a suit. (audio sample:
http://stancu.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/jact-5a-06.mp3)
#VXS And I am still sleepless and perplex. And I was sleepless yesterday as
well, almost all night. (audio sample:
http://stancu.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/jact-5a-07.mp3)
#VXS For I was sleeping for a short while. (audio sample:
http://stancu.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/jact-5a-08.mp3)
#VXS When I was sleeping, then in my dreams the creditors were chasing me and
they took suit because of my son. (audio sample:
http://stancu.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/jact-5a-09.mp3)
#VXS And being myself in perplexity, nobody was saving, but I was always fleeing
all night these suits, and my son here was always taking a lot of money, being a
horse maniac. (audio sample:
http://stancu.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/jact-5a-10.mp3)
#VXS And moreover, while sleeping, the young man is dreaming horses. (audio
sample: http://stancu.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/jact-5a-11.mp3)
#VXS Who is responsible? Responsible is the woman, I know it well. For this
always takes the son and talks about the horses. (audio sample:
http://stancu.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/jact-5a-12.mp3)
#VXS So then the son always hears and learns about horses. (audio sample:
http://stancu.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/jact-5a-13.mp3)
-------------------------
The reading of the text as a whole can be found at this address:
http://stancu.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/jact-5a.mp3
The whole material related to Section 5A can be found here:
http://stancu.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/jact5a-audio_samples1.pdf
For each section of the text, (1) words are first pronounced individually, and a
pause follows, then (2) words as grouped together are pronounced, followed by a
pause, then (3) the respective section is pronounced as a whole. (4) The whole
text is then presented as an audio sample.
Whatever the dialect chosen by each participant, the point is that reading aloud
and recording a piece of text would prompt the participant to be quite rigorous,
growing to a good consistency with the pronouciation system chosen. Moreover,
one who is supposedly participating in the movie project would be, I believe,
much better prepared after such exercise.
Vasile Stancu
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[mailto:b-greek-bounces at lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Mark Lightman
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 5:24 PM
To: Louis Sorenson; B-Greek List mail to all
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Jesus of Nazareth (Movie) in Greek?
I think this is a great idea, and I'm in for Jesus of Nazareth or a similar
film.
You've got copy right issues, although I suspect that some of the more
mission-orientated films would gladly allow the effort.
As far as PROFORAI, I agree with Vacile to let the participants choose their
own; mixed dialects would make the product more interesting and more accesssible
to a wider audience.
The tech issues would be tricky, but more possible now than just a few years
ago.
POIWSOMEN TOUTO TACEWS.
Mark L
FWSFOROS MARKOS
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From: Louis Sorenson <llsorenson at hotmail.com>
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Sent: Sun, September 12, 2010 10:08:04 PM
Subject: [B-Greek] Jesus of Nazareth (Movie) in Greek?
Hello all,
After watching the movie "Lord of the Rings" and also "Jesus of Nazareth", I
think that it would be a very
positive and rewarding project to try to make audio, text of the audio, and text
of the actions of one of these
movies in ancient Greek.
I think one of the best video projects would be to create such a resource for
the movie Jesus of Nazareth.
This was/is a movie/miniseries about the life and death of Christs. You can read
an article on Wikipedia at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_of_Nazareth_%28miniseries%29 . Any other
movies about Jesus would
also be an option for such a project. Another movie / movie series under
consideration would be C.S. Lewis'
The Chronicles of Narnia, but even moreso, the series by J.R. Tolkien, The Lord
of the Rings.
What would need to be created is 1) the text and 2) the audio (in a consistent
dialect) of the script, and 3)
captions/subtitles of the actions which occur side-by-side with the audio of the
movie. This is a project which
I think can be accomplished in a year or two. The first book of Harry Potter has
been translated into Attic.
It has received good reviews. There are many more students of New Testament
Greek than there are of Attic.
Many students of New Testament Greek would view such a video over and over
again. Many voices would
be required to create such an audio, along with a subscript text of the action.
Those who would want to participate in such a year/two year endeavor must be
able to do one of two things:
1) Read Greek aloud with emotion and an accent/dialect amenable to all (perhaps
Randall Buth's Restored
Koine) and/or 2) have the technical ability (advanced Greek skills) of being
able to write captions and
transcribe the script of one of the movies in the common Koine dialect.
Perhaps we could start such a project a year from now, once people are lined up.
What do you think? It
would probably take a year or two to finish.
TI FRONEIS; τί φρονεῖς;
Louis Sorenson
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