[B-Greek] MH EPI TOUTOIS in Jer. 5:9, 29, 9:8 LXX
Albert Haig
albert.haig at gmail.com
Sat Sep 18 03:20:47 EDT 2010
Thank you Albert! Excellent explanation. Excellent name also!
All the best,
Albert Haig.
On 17 September 2010 22:43, Albert Pietersma
<albert.pietersma at sympatico.ca>wrote:
> Since the Hebrew source text uses the interrogative particle H and the
> translator of Jeremiah is given to quantitative representation of his source
> (isomorphism), he uses MH to represent H, thereby making the question into a
> question that anticipates a negative response. NETS represents MH by
> "Surely" in all three cases you cite. Incidentally, 9:8 is 9:9 in Ziegler.
> Albert
>
> On Sep 17, 2010, at 1:54 AM, Albert Haig wrote:
>
> Hello everyone.
>>
>> A quick question about Jer 5:9 in the LXX (exactly the same phrase is
>> found
>> in 5:29 and 9:8). What is the reason for the extra negative MH, given that
>> the following verb is negated by OUK anyway? In the Hebrew there is only
>> one
>> negative, immediately preceding the verb. The phrase translated MH EPI
>> TOUTOIS is just "ha`al-'elleh", which has no negative and could be
>> rendered
>> in Greek just by EPI TOUTOIS, couldn't it? So why the extra negation in
>> the
>> LXX? The Greek text seems to translate into English literally as "Shall I
>> not punish them not for these things", or "Shall I not punish them except
>> for these things" (by analogy with Mt. 19:9 where MH EPI with the dative
>> also occurs), rather than just "Shall I not punish them for these things"
>> as
>> the Hebrew obviously reads.
>>
>> Does anyone have a suggestion?
>>
>> Thanks for your help!
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Albert Haig.
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