[B-Greek] Heb 6,4-6

Mark Lightman lightmanmark at yahoo.com
Sun Sep 19 15:47:21 EDT 2010


Peter asked

<In case the theory is true, that Verbal aspect, not time, is the
fundamental meaning expressed by the Greek tense-forms, then maybe all you
can say is that the aorists in Heb 6,4-6 expresses perfective and the
present tense imperfective aspect.
Do you agree ?>

Hi, Peter,

Yes, I do agree.  While Barry may be correct to analyze this passage in terms of 
time, I think the issue is of aspect, the type of action of the verb 
ANASTAUROW.  Bob Dole said that seeking the Republican nomination for President 
is like making love to your wife;  it's not something you do just one time and 
then forget about.  Similarly, people who re-crucify the Son of God tend to do 
so over and over again. 


 Mark L
Φωσφορος


FWSFOROS MARKOS




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Subject: [B-Greek] Heb 6,4-6

Dear Mark and Barry,

thank you for your helpful answers !

In case the theory is true, that Verbal aspect, not time, is the
fundamental meaning expressed by the Greek tense-forms, then maybe all you
can say is that the aorists in Heb 6,4-6 expresses perfective and the
present tense imperfective aspect.
Do you agree ?
Yours
Peter, Germany



> Peter asked
>
> <I wonder how the switch from the aorist (FWTISQENTAS k.t.l.) to the
> present tense (ANAKAINIZEIN, ANASTAUROUNTAS, PARADEIGMATIZONTAS) in Heb
> 6,4-6 can be explained.>
>
> Hi, Peter,
>
> Well, I think this is one case where the former participle is meant to
> imply a
> prior, one time action, and the later forms are meant to imply  repeated,
> on-going actions.  In other words, where the Greek tenses work  they way
> they
> tell you they work.

I think that we are to understand ἔóôé with ἀäύíáôïí. 
This would make the
action of the aorist participles prior to the time frame expressed by the
implicit main verb, and the present infinitive and participles concurrent
with that time frame.  So, I am not sure that "repeated, on-going actions"
is the nuance intended.



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