[B-Greek] grammar-translation
John Schwandt
jschwandt at nsa.edu
Wed Apr 13 15:14:26 EDT 2011
I also happily endorse "Living Konie Greek." As a suggestion to bring it
into wider use in academia, it is an easy addition to any course. (fair
warning: a little taste may get you hooked.) I require it for my college
students in addition to the Athenaze curriculum. At the beginning of every
class we listen through 20 pictures and then do it again but the second time
we try to say the Greek that accompanies the picture along with Dr. Buth.
(We have a sound system in the classroom so I can play the recordings from
my mp3 player.) The students are expected to do this at home as well and I
put a few LKG pictures and questions on the final exam to hold them
accountable. It is an easy way to wade in and encourages us to talk about
the stories in our text in Greek. I'm not sure if Dr. Buth would encourage
this type of incrementalism, but his materials are so good that I think any
use of them is better than none.
(Full disclosure: I don't receive any remuneration for the materials. I'm
simply another satisfied customer and a supporter of communicative language
acquisition.)
BTW, for anyone else using Dr. Buth's historical pronunciation and Athenaze,
I have clickable vocabulary lists that generally relate to Athenaze at
http://www.biblicalgreek.org/grammar/athenaze/1alpha.php . (You can use the
sidebar to look at lists from each chapter.)
Blessings,
John Schwandt
Senior Fellow of Classical Languages, New Saint Andrews College
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Randall Buth <randallbuth at gmail.com>wrote:
> I just saw an earlier post thank to Nikolaos' response:
>
> >I will rephrase the biblical "come and see" to 'try and see' - as
> >there is a great difference between life and death, so the distance
> >between a usage of a dead language and a living language is
> >significant, make the linguistic resurrection of yours as soon as
> >possible.
>
> >On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Refe Tuma <refetuma at gmail.com <
> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/b-greek>> wrote:
> >>* I am one of those self-learners who used Mounce to learn Greek. Or, I
> should
> *>>* probably say to learn to read the New Testament in Greek. I don't have
> a
> *>>* Bachelor's Degree to get into Seminary, and with a family and a job it
> will
> *>>* likely take 6 years or so to get there, so I am using the tools
> available to
> *>>* me now so I can take advantage of my youthful brain while it lasts! I
> have
> *>>* developed the reading comprehension and vocabulary to read through the
> *>>* entire NT without helps, but I couldn't formulate a sentence - whether
> *>>* verbally or through pen and paper - if my life truly depended on
> it. I could
> *>>* certainly translate without that ability, and get by in exegesis, but
> could
> *>>* I call myself fluent? And, could I really claim to understand the
> language
> *>>* without the ability to use it myself to communicate?
> *>>*
> *>>* I am somewhat familiar with Randall Buth's Living Koine materials, but
> have
> *>>* so far shied away due to the price tag, as well as perhaps a bit of
> *>>* skepticism that they can deliver what they promise (no offense
> intended
> *>>* Randall! I just haven't heard much in the way of endorsement - perhaps
> that
> *>>* is simply because they are too far outside of the comfortable
> traditions of
> *>>* academia?) Can anyone shed some light on what the options are for
> developing
> *>>* English-to-Greek capabilities?
> *>>*
> *>>* Thanks and God bless,
> *>>*
> *>>* Refe
> *
>
>
>
> I suppose that your comment about being 'outside the academic comfort
> zone' does apply here. You will notice that most b-greek discussions
> proceed along traditional lines, despite occasional notices from language
> learning studies warning that we shouldn't be going in these directions.
> But discussions usually proceed as if the warnings didn't exist.
>
> Someone said the following on a list (here?) relatively recently:
>
> "If you like fresh, ripe peaches with juice that runs down your chin
> when you bite into them, try “Living Koine Greek” by Randall Buth,
> available to order from http://www.biblicallanguagecenter. Start with
> the
> first volume and go on from there. You will learn faster, have more fun,
> and remember it longer. (Full disclosure: I have no relationship
> to http://www.biblicallanguagecenter <http://biblicalulpan.org/> except
> that
> of satisfied customer.)"
> [website updated--RB]
>
> For comments from others and profs, see:
> http://www.biblicallanguagecenter.com/what-people-are-saying/
> We'll want to add some more after the summer Greek Workshop.
>
> ERRWSQE
> IWANHS
> --
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