[B-Greek] Subject:, Fw: B-Greek Digest, Vol 100, Issue 15 - greek fonts and online teaching
George F Somsel
gfsomsel at yahoo.com
Sun Apr 17 12:56:04 EDT 2011
I mis-spoke. I did not mean the Dvorak keyboard but the QWERTY keyboard. Sorry
for any confusion.
george
gfsomsel
… search for truth, hear truth,
learn truth, love truth, speak the truth, hold the truth,
defend the truth till death.
- Jan Hus
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From: George F Somsel <gfsomsel at yahoo.com>
To: John Schwandt <jschwandt at nsa.edu>
Cc: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org; "John Barach, Sr" <jbarach at motorera.com>
Sent: Sun, April 17, 2011 9:02:14 AM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Subject:, Fw: B-Greek Digest, Vol 100, Issue 15 - greek
fonts and online teaching
First of all, I see no reason to slavishly follow the Greek national keyboard.
The object is to get the characters on the paper (you see, I'm an "old fogey" to
still speak of paper), not to follow some schema. The use of the Dvorak
keyboard makes it much simpler for US users -- and I suspect for others using
Latin characters in their native language. The Logos keyboard makes use of the
standard Dvorak arrangement with most of the characters located where one might
expect to find them based on phonetic resemblances. Where it does differ from
such a phonetic arrangement it frequently follows the beta code convention ("q"
= "θ") or uses otherwise unused keys such as "v" for "ς" (final sigma) and "j"
for "ͅ" (iota subscript). The accents are: acute ( ́) = "/" (slash or forward
slash), grave ( ̀) = "\" (backslash), and cirumflex ( ͂ ) = "=" (equal
sign), " ̈ " (diairesis) = "`" (Latin grave), " · " (raised dot), " ; " (Greek
question mark) = "?", " ̔ " (rough breathing) = "[" (opening square bracket), "
̓ " (smooth breathing) = "]" (closing square bracket). Finally, it's therefore
quite easy to learn and doesn't require the use of dead keys at all (there is
the use of <ctrl-alt> for some normally unused characters such as "ϡ" (sampi)).
george
gfsomsel
… search for truth, hear truth,
learn truth, love truth, speak the truth, hold the truth,
defend the truth till death.
- Jan Hus
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From: John Schwandt <jschwandt at nsa.edu>
To: George F Somsel <gfsomsel at yahoo.com>
Cc: "John Barach, Sr" <jbarach at motorera.com>; susan at read-the-bible.org;
b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Sun, April 17, 2011 8:08:58 AM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Subject:, Fw: B-Greek Digest, Vol 100, Issue 15 - greek
fonts and online teaching
Hi Georg and Oun,
I think both of your suggestions are hitting at the same idea. Why not just use
a sequence of dead keys for the accents instead of shift states?
The problem is that windows only allows for only one dead key (Mac's can stack
them up). So we can't create a character in Windows with more than two key
strokes. This creates a problem for characters with more than one diacritical
mark. Not only has resulted in the standard Windows polytonic keyboard with a
serious number of key locations to cover all of the possible diacritical
combinations, they have to be pressed prior to vowel receiving the accent (This
is counter intuitive since one would write the letter first then the mark if
writing by hand.)
So I only see three options.
1) It is possible to all of the standard window's accent keys around, but while
that might might the accents easier to reach, it would be no less complicated
and risk moving away from the Greek national keyboard layout.
2) It
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 12:47 PM, George F Somsel <gfsomsel at yahoo.com> wrote:
I would recommend assigning a separate sequence for each keyboard since using
><alt-sft> to cycle through them can leave you wondering which keyboard is
active
>at the time (until you begin to type). I use <lft alt. sft, 1> for English,
><lft alt, sft, 2> for Greek, <lft alt, sft, 3> for Hebrew, <lft alt, sft, 4>
for
>Syriac so that I always know what language I'm using.
> george
>gfsomsel
>
>
>… search for truth, hear truth,
>learn truth, love truth, speak the truth, hold the truth,
>defend the truth till death.
>
>
>- Jan Hus
>_________
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
>From: "John Barach, Sr" <jbarach at motorera.com>
>To: susan at read-the-bible.org; b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
>Sent: Sat, April 16, 2011 9:51:57 AM
>Subject: [B-Greek] Subject:, Fw: B-Greek Digest, Vol 100, Issue 15 - greek
fonts
>and online teaching
>
>
>If you are using Vista or Win 7, you can configure your keyboard so that
>by hitting the left Alt and Shift keys, you can switch from English to
>Greek (and back).
>Control Panel > Clock,Language,Region > Change keyboards or other input
>methods > Change Keyboards > Add >
>Scroll to Greek and click the + beside the word Greek to open the menu
>Click the + beside keyboard
>Select Greek Polytonic (it has all the accents and breathing marks)
>Then OK out of all the windows.
>
>You can do the same for Hebrew or other languages if you like. Alt+Shift
>will rotate between/among the languages you have selected.
>
>This will work in Word or Notepad++ and other word processing programs
>and will create unicode letters.
>Cheers,
>John Barach
>http://www.motorera.com
>
>
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