[B-Greek] Ephesians 2:8
Jason Hare
jason at thehebrewcafe.com
Thu Apr 21 00:36:46 EDT 2011
Right. :)
τοῦτο here refers to the salvation process itself. I agree with Michael.
Jason Hare
Rehovot, Israel
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יהיו לרצון אמרי פי והגיון לבי לפניך, ה' צורי וגואלי
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 7:07 AM, Michael Aubrey <mga318 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> It refers to neither and it refers to both.
>
> TOUTO is neuter--neither PISTEWS nor CHARITI are neuter. They're both
> feminine.
>
>
> Neuter demonstratives that do not have a neuter antecedent can refer to an
> entire state of affairs:
>
>
> (TH GAR CHARITI ESTE SESWSMENOI DIA PISTEWS) KAI TOUTO...
>
> TOUTO refers to the entire event of salvation by grace through faith.
>
>
> Mike Aubrey
> http://evepheso.wordpress.com
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Robert Stump <robertstump at gmail.com>
> To: B-Greek <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 8:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] Ephesians 2:8
>
> Is there any reason to think that TOUTO in Ephesians 2:8 must, of
> necessity, refer to PISTEWS as opposed to CARITI? Is there reason to
> favor one over the other?
>
> τη γαρ χαριτι εστε σεσωσμενοι δια πιστεως και τουτο ουκ εξ υμων θεου το
> δωρον
>
> TH GAR CARITI ESTE SESWSMENOI DIA PISTEWOS KAI TOUTO OUK EX UMWN QEOU TO
> DWRON
>
> Yours in Christ,
> Robert Stump
> Orlando, FL
> Seminarian
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