[B-Greek] the article TOU in Luke 3:23

George F Somsel gfsomsel at yahoo.com
Thu Feb 10 09:05:32 EST 2011


While I concur with Carl regarding the use of the article with expressions 
indicating descent, I would also note that it is by no means unknown for the 
simple genitive to be used without the article.  I cite only one passage which 
is selected as likewise being from the Gospel according to Luke though there are 
others as well.
εἶπεν δὲ πρὸς αὐτὸν ὁ Ἰησοῦς ὅτι σήμερον σωτηρία τῷ οἴκῳ τούτῳ ἐγένετο, καθότι 
καὶ αὐτὸς υἱὸς Ἀβραάμ ἐστιν· 

EIPEN DE PROS AUTON hO IHSOUS hOTI SHMERON SWTHRIA TWi OIKWi TOUTWi EGENETO, 
KAQOTI KAI AUTOS hUIOS ABRAAM ESTIN.
 
Note that like Ἰωσὴφ IWSHF in Lk 3.23 Ἀβραάμ ABRAAM is indeclinable but must be 
considered to be in the genitive.

 george
gfsomsel 


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From: Carl Conrad <cwconrad2 at mac.com>
To: Wong Hung Huen <hwhhwong at gmail.com>
Cc: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Thu, February 10, 2011 6:52:55 AM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] the article TOU in Luke 3:23


On Feb 10, 2011, at 8:49 AM, Carl Conrad wrote:

> 
> On Feb 10, 2011, at 3:49 AM, Wong Hung Huen wrote:
> 
>> dear all
>> could anyone  tell me why there is no article tou in front of Joseph while
>> throughout the list of the father/ancestors of Mary, there is always the
>> presence of the article tou even up till "of Adam, of God"(Lk 3:38)?
> 
> Luke 3:23     Καὶ αὐτὸς ἦν Ἰησοῦς ἀρχόμενος ὡσεὶ ἐτῶν τριάκοντα, ὢν υἱός, ὡς 
>ἐνομίζετο, Ἰωσὴφ τοῦ Ἠλὶ  24 τοῦ Μαθθὰτ τοῦ Λευὶ τοῦ Μελχὶ τοῦ Ἰανναὶ τοῦ Ἰωσὴφ  
>25 τοῦ Ματταθίου τοῦ Ἀμὼς τοῦ Ναοὺμ τοῦ Ἑσλὶ τοῦ Ναγγαὶ  26 τοῦ Μάαθ τοῦ 
>Ματταθίου τοῦ Σεμεῒν τοῦ Ἰωσὴχ τοῦ Ἰωδὰ  27 τοῦ Ἰωανὰν τοῦ Ῥησὰ τοῦ Ζοροβαβὲλ 
>τοῦ Σαλαθιὴλ τοῦ Νηρὶ  28 τοῦ Μελχὶ τοῦ Ἀδδὶ τοῦ Κωσὰμ τοῦ Ἐλμαδὰμ τοῦ Ἢρ  29 
>τοῦ Ἰησοῦ τοῦ Ἐλιέζερ τοῦ Ἰωρὶμ τοῦ Μαθθὰτ τοῦ Λευὶ  30 τοῦ Συμεὼν τοῦ Ἰούδα τοῦ 
>Ἰωσὴφ τοῦ Ἰωνὰμ τοῦ Ἐλιακὶμ  31 τοῦ Μελεὰ τοῦ Μεννὰ τοῦ Ματταθὰ τοῦ Ναθὰμ τοῦ 
>Δαυὶδ  32 τοῦ Ἰεσσαὶ τοῦ Ἰωβὴδ τοῦ Βόος τοῦ Σαλὰ τοῦ Ναασσὼν  33 τοῦ Ἀμιναδὰβ 
>τοῦ Ἀδμὶν τοῦ Ἀρνὶ τοῦ Ἑσρὼμ τοῦ Φάρες τοῦ Ἰούδα  34 τοῦ Ἰακὼβ τοῦ Ἰσαὰκ τοῦ 
>Ἀβραὰμ τοῦ Θάρα τοῦ Ναχὼρ  35 τοῦ Σεροὺχ τοῦ Ῥαγαὺ τοῦ Φάλεκ τοῦ Ἔβερ τοῦ Σαλὰ  
>36 τοῦ Καϊνὰμ τοῦ Ἀρφαξὰδ τοῦ Σὴμ τοῦ Νῶε τοῦ Λάμεχ  37 τοῦ Μαθουσαλὰ τοῦ Ἑνὼχ 
>τοῦ Ἰάρετ τοῦ Μαλελεὴλ τοῦ Καϊνὰμ  38 τοῦ Ἐνὼς τοῦ Σὴθ τοῦ Ἀδὰμ τοῦ θεοῦ. 
>
> [Luke 3:23 KAI AUTOS HN IHSOUS ARCOMENOS hWSEI ETWN TRIAKONTA, WN hUIOS, hWS 
>ENOMIZETO, IWSHF TOU HLI  24 TOU MAQQAT TOU LEUI TOU MELCI TOU IANNAI TOU IWSHF  
>25 TOU MATTAQIOU TOU AMWS TOU NAOUM TOU hESLI TOU NAGGAI  26 TOU MAAQ TOU 
>MATTAQIOU TOU SEMEI+N TOU IWSHC TOU IWDA  27 TOU IWANAN TOU hRHSA TOU ZOROBABEL 
>TOU SALAQIHL TOU NHRI  28 TOU MELCI TOU ADDI TOU KWSAM TOU ELMADAM TOU HR  29 
>TOU IHSOU TOU ELIEZER TOU IWRIM TOU MAQQAT TOU LEUI  30 TOU SUMEWN TOU IOUDA TOU 
>IWSHF TOU IWNAM TOU ELIAKIM  31 TOU MELEA TOU MENNA TOU MATTAQA TOU NAQAM TOU 
>DAUID  32 TOU IESSAI TOU IWBHD TOU BOOS TOU SALA TOU NAASSWN  33 TOU AMINADAB 
>TOU ADMIN TOU ARNI TOU hESRWM TOU FARES TOU IOUDA  34 TOU IAKWB TOU ISAAK TOU 
>ABRAAM TOU QARA TOU NACWR  35 TOU SEROUC TOU hRAGAU TOU FALEK TOU EBER TOU SALA  
>36 TOU KAI+NAM TOU ARFAXAD TOU SHM TOU NWE TOU LAMEC  37 TOU MAQOUSALA TOU hENWC 
>TOU IARET TOU MALELEHL TOU KAI+NAM  38 TOU ENWS TOU SHQ TOU ADAM TOU QEOU.]
> 
> IWSHF is indeclinable; it must be genitive here in the construction with WN 
>hUIOS; the other instances of TOU are 
>

... regular expressions in names "X TOU Y" = "X son of Y."


Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)



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