[B-Greek] NT Greek verbal aspect (Joseph Justiss)

Carl Conrad cwconrad2 at mac.com
Wed Feb 23 06:15:30 EST 2011


On Feb 23, 2011, at 12:23 AM, Daniel Wilson wrote:

> 
> Joseph,After going through this myself, reading Campbell, Porter, Fanning, and T. Evans on the subject, I found Steve Runge's comments insightful.  He challenges the ideas presented by Porter and others.  His thoughts can be read here: http://www.ntdiscourse.org/on-porter-prominence-and-aspect/He mentions that the work of Porter seems right on theoretical grounds, but his conclusions don't seem to work when applied to the text (no doubt, a reason to question the theory).  Make sure and check out Runge's review of these approaches as it is probably the most recent reflection on the subject.  He also writes in an unusually clear manner for someone who deals in linguistics. As my professor Peter Gentry likes to say, "Linguists are singularly unable to communicate" :) (I speak as one entering the field myself)  Runge also delivered a paper this year at ETS/SBL challenging Porter on aspect.  If you contacted him at Logos he may be able to send it to you, though all the information
> 
>  he presented is in the link above.
> Hope that helps,Daniel Wilson  

Actually he is a list-member of B-Greek and can speak for himself, if he wants to. He's certainly been very gracious in speaking and writing to me.

Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University (Retired)

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> Who are the major players today who write on the use of tenses and verbal
> aspect in NT Greek? Who are the ones challenging and enhancing the
> traditional views in a way that is up to par with scholarly standards and
> deserves serious attention? Porter? Campbell? I'm looking for suggestions on
> what I should be reading to really enter the discussion and decide for
> myself. Are there any writers who offer explanation on the way the tenses
> interact in texts to build stories and discourses. Things like tense
> shifting, foregrounding, backgrounding, etc. etc. in narrative and
> non-narrative.
> -- 
> Joseph Justiss
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> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] NT Greek verbal aspect (Joseph Justiss)
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> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:42:10 +0000
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> Joseph, 
> 
> A good place to start is with Campbell's little book: Basics of Verbal Aspect in Biblical Greek . 
> 
> Next, I would recommend the first chapter of Stanley Porter's Idioms of the Greek New Testament for the newer view along with Dan Wallace's  Greek Grammar Beyond the Basics for a more traditional view. Everyone working with the NT should have a copy of Wallace's syntax anyway. 
> 
> If you have a seminary or university library available, you can consult Buist Fanning's doctoral work on verbal aspect which was published as Verbal Aspect in New Testament Greek . There are also some up to date scholarly articles on the subject in The Linguist as Pedagogue edited by Stanley Porter and Matthew O'Donnell. Both books are on the expensive side (although you can purchase Sheffield Phoenix books for half price if you buy them directly from the publisher). 
> 
> If you still want to read more (although it is hard to imagine why you would!), you can follow up by simply reading the footnotes. 
> 
> David A Booth 
> 
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> From: "Joseph Justiss" <jljustiss at gmail.com> 
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> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 12:26:44 PM 
> Subject: [B-Greek] NT Greek verbal aspect (Joseph Justiss) 
> 
> Who are the major players today who write on the use of tenses and verbal 
> aspect in NT Greek? Who are the ones challenging and enhancing the 
> traditional views in a way that is up to par with scholarly standards and 
> deserves serious attention? Porter? Campbell? I'm looking for suggestions on 
> what I should be reading to really enter the discussion and decide for 
> myself. Are there any writers who offer explanation on the way the tenses 
> interact in texts to build stories and discourses. Things like tense 
> shifting, foregrounding, backgrounding, etc. etc. in narrative and 
> non-narrative. 
> 
> -- 
> Joseph Justiss 







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