[B-Greek] PAS and POLUS

Mario Trinchero mariotrinchero at gmail.com
Tue Jan 18 09:47:48 EST 2011


Hi James
do you know Max Zerwick S.I.
and your book Analysis Philologica Novi Testamenti Graeci?

pag 344
ad romanos 5:19
οἱ πολλοί hic = omnes (cf 18); semitice in οἱ πολλοί non subauditur oppos.
ad "omnes",
ideo "multi" intellegi possunt omnes, qui multi sunt  (cf Matt 20;28)

Mario Trinchero



2011/1/18 James Ernest <j.d.ernest at bc.edu>

> > PAS with article = ALL
> > without article = MANY
>
> Really? Who made that rule? (Rules like this always remind me of Lucy's
> "little-known facts." When Charlie Brown asks her how, if they're
> little-known, she comes to know them. "I make 'em up.")
>
> > the argument was made that because 'many' does not mean 'all', then
> > the use of POLUS in Romans 5:19 necessarily limits the scope of PAS in
> v. 18.
>
> You could just as plausibly say that the scope of POLUS (which in a
> one-versus-many context could quite naturally imply "all") is limited by
> the
> preceding PAS: "all" always has a frame of reference (all what? or all
> who?)
> Doesn't the Adam/Christ discussion in Romans 5 occur in the context of a
> Jews/all-humanity discussion in the epistle as a whole?
>
> I don't know what "all" means in the context of the conversation that
> prompted the initial post. If it's an argument about universalism (in the
> sense of the salvation of every individual human), I don't think Paul is
> addressing that question here. If you want to address it, Sam, you'll have
> to do so in the context of a larger exegetical, hermeneutical, and
> theological project. Lexicon entries and rules about articles (especially
> bogus rules) won't help you (or, in this case, your opponents).
>
> James Ernest
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