[B-Greek] 1Co 13:7 PANTA believe all?
Vasile Stancu
stancu.c.vasile at gmail.com
Sat May 14 01:55:52 EDT 2011
To my 'intuitive perception' of Greek, the dative in such instances
defines a kind of intermediate stage in the process of PISTEUEIN. In
most of the cases, if a person is the object of believing, it is in the
dative. Sometimes the person is in the accusative, but no directly - I
cannot find examples where the believing has a person as its related
object, where the accusative is employed directly, i.e., without some
preposition like EIS, EN, EPI, e.g., PISTEUEIN EIS/EN/EPI AUTON, and not
PISTEUEIN AUTON.
On the other hand, when the 'substance' of believing, such as a
principle/teaching/word/saying, is addressed, the same is used in the
accusative, directly, without any preposition, e.g. PISTEUEIS TOUTO; (Jn
11:26) (a principle/teaching); EPISTEUSAN TA LOGIA TOU QEOU (Rom 3:2)
(the words/system of teachings/commands); PANTA PISTEUEI (1Co 13:7) (all
possible/imaginable things); PEPISTEUKAMEN THN AGAPHN (1Jn 4:16)
(something manifested by somebody).
It is (again, intuitively) like in the case of AKOUW (with
genitive/accusative this time): I hear somebody (in the genitive), but I
hear something (in the accusative) that somebody produces (such as
voice, words, music); it is not 'somebody', but rather 'something' which
impresses my ears and yields the actual hearing.
Vasile
On 5/14/2011 5:45 AM, Louis Sorenson wrote:
> I'd swear I had the header correct. Here is a repost under the correct Subject: 1Co 13:7 PANTA believe all?
>
> Oun EGRAYE:
>
>> In the examples given by Vasile for comparison I see one from 1Jn 4:1.
>> However, this is a typical 'PISTEUW + dative', which does not help me
>> while swimming in 'PISTEUW + accusative'.
> .................
>> Now, my problem is that I only recall 'PISTEUW + dative' and 'PISTEUW
>> + EIS (EPI)'. Would 'accusative' belong to this group to give same
>> nuance? Or should go to the direction of what NIV did? Are there any
>> other examples I can see and compare other than 1Co?
>>
>> Oun Kwon.
>>
> BDAG's entry lists the accusative as the first
> option. Accusative of content? The accusative is also used with the
> infinitive construct:
>
> πιστεύω (Trag.+) impf. ἐπίστευον; 1 aor. ἐπίστευσα; pf. πεπίστευκα; plpf. πεπιστεύκειν Ac 14:23 (on the omission of the augment s. B-D-F §66, 1; Mlt-H. 190). Pass.: fut. 3 pl. πιστευθήσονται Gen 42, 20; 1 aor. ἐπιστεύθην; pf. πεπίστευμαι (the word does not occur in Phlm, 2 Pt, 2 and 3J, Rv, MPol, or D. But it is a special favorite of J and 1J, where it is found 96 times and 9 times respectively; πίστις is not found in the gospel at all, and occurs in 1J only once, 5:4. Our lit. uses it quite predominantly in a transcendent sense, or at least w. w. transcendent coloring).
>
>
> ① to consider someth. to be true and therefore worthy of one’s trust, believe
> ⓐ believe (in) someth., be convinced of someth., w. that which one believes (in) indicated
> α. by acc. of thing (Soph., Oed. Rex 646 τάδε; Aristot., Analyt. Pr. 2, 23, 68b, 13 ἅπαντα; PSI 494, 14 μηθέν; UPZ 70, 29 [152/151 b.c.] π. τὰ ἐνύπνια; ApcEsdr 7:12 p. 32, 26 τὸ βιβλίον τοῦτο) ἡ ἀγάπη πάντα πιστεύει 1 Cor 13:7. πεπιστεύκαμεν τὴν ἀγάπην we believe in the love 1J 4:16. πιστεύεις τοῦτο; J 11:26b. Cp. Ac 13:41 (Hab 1:5). Pass. ἐπιστεύθη τὸ μαρτύριον ἡμῶν our testimony was believed 2 Th 1:10b (cp. Aristot., EN 10, 2 p. 1172b, 15 ἐπιστεύοντο οἱ λόγοι; Gen 42:20).
>
> γ. by the acc. and inf. (pres. Pla., Gorg. 524a; PTebt 314, 3 [II a.d.]; 4 Macc 5:25; Jos., C. Ap. 2, 160; Just., A I, 8, 2 al.; Ath. 20, 3) πιστεύω τὸν υἱὸν τοῦ θεοῦ εἶναι τὸν Ἰησοῦν Ac 8:37b.—GMary 463, 8.—IRo 10:2.—By the inf. (Thu 2, 22, 1; Job 15:22; AscIs 2:10 εἰς οὐρανὸν ἀναβῆναι) πιστεύομεν σωθῆναι Ac 15:11 (difft. JNolland, NTS 27, ’80, 112f [inf. of result: ‘we believe (in order) to be saved’]).—By the acc. and ptc. ἐν σαρκὶ αὐτὸν πιστεύω ὄντα I believe that he was in the flesh ISm 3:1.
>
> Louis Sorenson
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