[b-greek] Re: DIA in Rom 14:20 and BDAG

From: Jon D. Boyd (johanan@juno.com)
Date: Fri Dec 29 2000 - 05:37:02 EST


Rom. 14:20

MH hENEKEN BRWMATOS KATALUE TO ERGON TOU QEOU. PANTA MEN KAQARA, ALLA
KAKON TWi ANQRWPWi TWi DIA PROSKOMMATOS ESQIONTI.

Iver Larsen wrote:
<Bauer translates DIA PROSKOMMATOS ESQIEIN as "mit Anstoss, mit Bedenken
essen" which
in English means something like "to eat while taking offence at, with
scruples".
Bauer apparently understands the passage to say that it is the one who
eats who
feels the scruples or takes offence at the action. This is the
interpretation
prevalent in German and Scandinavian Biblical scholarship as exemplified
in the
various published Bibles in those languages.

BDAG translates the same phrase as "eat with offense (to the scruples of
another)". This is not a translation of Bauer, but a re-interpretation.
It seems
to me that this re-interpretation goes beyond the function of DIA as
describing
an accompanying circumstance and well into the function of EIS (resulting
in
offence to another person.)>

Steven Miller wrote:
<IMO in understanding the crux of the issue between these two
interpretations, one should focus on PROSKOMMA and not DIA, since IMO
both
interpretations can see DIA as a "DIA of attendant circumstances." I
think
that BDAG weakly indicates both these possibilities in its entry under
PROSKOMMA. It translates DIA PROSKOMMATOS ESQIEIN as "eat and stumble in
the process." Then it suggests that "Some would put this under 2," but
unfortunately, it doesn't make clear what is meant.>

I think that Steven is correct in pointing us to PROSKOMMA. The cryptic
phrase in BDAG, "Some would put this under 2," refers to meaning #2,
"opportunity to experience inward pain (take offense) or make a misstep,
_cause for offense, cause for making a misstep_". I find the definition
a little confusing. I understand the glosses, but the definition seems
to differ from them. It seems to me that the main difference between
entry #1 "act of stumbling" and entry #2 (quoted above) is that the
second has a causative force. The context would favor the second entry,
as v. 13 introduces the section: MHKETI OUN ALLHLOUS KRINWMEN; ALLA TOUTO
KRINATE MALLON, TO MH TIQENAI PROSKOMMA TWi ADELFWi H SKANDALON.

Jonathan Boyd
Ankeny, IA

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