From: Mike Sangrey (msangrey@BlueFeltHat.org)
Date: Wed Oct 31 2001 - 19:32:04 EST
First let me say a big thank you to Carl and Iver for having this
conversation out in the open. It gives those like me a chance to see
the STUFF which ends up getting distilled into a grammar. It's not
without some rather intense thinking on my part, but it is still hugely
beneficial.
Second, I have two questions that I'd love to see you two (and others)
address, work through (and hopefully out the other side), stumble
through <chuckle>, etc:
1. OK, I'm sitting here looking at a verb in my GNT. It is
morphologically (A) or (M) or (P), pick one. If that
morpheme doesn't tell me what it is, then what does? And I
mean this to be a very serious question. I'm looking for
guidance so that I can look at a GNT text (with its
associated grammar and lexis) and tell from how the author
has used that grammar and lexis how to interpret the
morpheme. There is an interplay going on between the
morpheme and other semantic pieces; what are those pieces and
what's the interplay[1]?
2. Why is it that future and aorist have three voice paradigms
and the other tense/aspects don't? Even if you can argue
that the other tenses/aspects actually do have all three
voices, the fact would still remain that people of the time
rarely used them. What is there about the intersection of
the semantics of voice with the semantics of tense/aspect in
Greek that causes what to us English people looks anomalous?
And there is interaction between these two questions, too. If there is
something in the language which disambiguates middle and passive in
(say) the present, then why is that not utilized in (say) aorists?
Thank you loudly!
FWIW, it's the inter-relationships of things like this that make me sign
every email message with "A net of highly cohesive details reveals the
truth."
--- [1] This is sort of similar to how a word that is lexically perfective (eg `die') interacts with tense/aspect. When I learned that a word's lexical semantics can have a tense/aspect feature to it, that helped me a lot to see how the word is functioning in a given sentence. I'm searching for the same type of help here with voice.-- Mike Sangrey msangrey@BlueFeltHat.org Landisburg, Pa. "The first one last wins." "A net of highly cohesive details reveals the truth."
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