From: Polycarp66@aol.com
Date: Tue Jan 15 2002 - 21:28:49 EST
In a message dated 1/15/2002 2:46:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
iver_larsen@sil.org writes:
> >
> > In Titus 1:6 are found some of the qualifications for being an elder.  It
> > says:
> >
> > EI TIS ESTIN ANEGKLHTOS MIAS GUNAIKOS ANHR TEKNA ECWN PISTA MH EN
> > KATHGORIA ASWTIAS H ANUPOTAKTA.
> >
> > The phrase TEKNA ECWN PISTA has been translated to mean "children that 
> are
> > believers".  Since PISTA is the adjective PISTOS could the
> > translation mean "children that are trustworthy"?
> 
> Dear Doug,
> 
> I understand you to imply that "believers" is a somewhat misleading
> translation in this context, and I think you are right. If one thinks of
> belief as a personal, inner conviction, then the parents cannot control the
> convictions of their children, although they can do much to lead them
> towards faith, mainly by their example, less by their preaching. What Paul
> is looking for is probably the fact that you can learn a lot about parents
> by looking at the behaviour of their children.
> 
> 
One does not need to consider the "children" as being literally the flesh and 
blood decendents of the parent.  The term "father" and "child" were used of 
the relationship between a teacher and his disciples.  This may be the case 
here.  Frederick Weidmann ( _Polycarp and John_, Notre Dame, IN: University 
of Notre Dame Press,    1999), pp 84-92, makes precisely this point noting 1 
Tim. 1.2 and Tit. 1.4 in this regard. The requirement then becomes:  What 
about his pupils?  
gfsomsel
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