Re: Mt 2:22-23/Herod's Sons: questions for this list? (fwd)

From: Mr. Timothy T. Dickens (
Date: Mon Nov 04 1996 - 20:32:38 EST

At 5:34 PM -0600 11/3/96, Mr. Timothy T. Dickens wrote: Thanks Stephen, I appreciate your help. A list like this will benefit me and others alike. I know already of,ancien@rome.classics,and ioudaios-l@Lehigh.EDU. These addresses have been helpful to me tremendously. At least your reply was not like Carl Conrad's. He openly embarrassed me on B-Greek, mistakenly thought I was still at
 Columbia, and thought I still had access to the wonderful librarian at Union Seminary and Columbia.

        Well, Tim, you are certainly right about a couple things here. I really did think you were at Columbia and had access to the library there, and I certainly wouldn't have said anything about that if I had been wise enou
gh or observant enough to pay attention to your signature file indicating that you are currently at Smyrna, GA. What jumped out at me from the signature file was the lengthy citation from _Black Athena Revisited_ and th
e notice about your web site. So I'm very sorry about that mistake.

TTD: I accept your apology Carl. I want you to know that I really
respect you as Carl, the classicist, the Greek and Latin scholar.
You are someone whose shoes I long to walk in. I say this only
because I can understand, due to my background in classics and my
best friend studying classics at Yale, what a classicist has to
undergo to achieve a Ph.D. in the subject. If I was not so afraid of
the myriad of authors-Latin and greek myself, I would go after it!

        Carl, apology accepted! I was only hurt because you had made
me feel like a public spectacle! I must concede, however, that in
times past, I used B-Greek as a sounding board for my ideas. This
was totally unfair (and outright wrong) of me to do this. As time
past, I slowly came to realize how resourceful and enlightening
b-Greek can become. I appreciate 'fighting' over the grammar,
morphology, and the many nuances that Greek texts (Koine and
classical) has to offer.

        Before I go, I want to mention that while I was a student at
Union/Columbia University, I had wonderful access to the libraries,
archives of biblical manuscripts, and ect. And let's not forget my
having access to that 5 million dollar baby, the Thesuara Lingua
Graece, commonly called the TLG. Oh yes, when I was in NY, I could
go almost anytime to access these references.

        Since I moved to Georgia, this is not the case. I will not go
into details explaining why Emory will only allow some outside
institutions to use only a few of its resources. There have been
moments that I have needed to use the $125 LSJ lexicon or Oxford
classical dictionary, and I could not access these references for
one reason or another. I just started teaching in a two year
college and there has been an incredible strain on me financially to
buy all the necessary references that I had access to when I lived
in NY. The stories could go into greater length, more than you
probably care to hear, or I care to even write.

Apology accepted.

Peace and Love,
Timothy T. Dickens
Smyrna, GA Home School

Please visit my website at:

Near Eastern specialist and Egyptologist. . .are too aware of the
isolationism often seen in traditional classics--or more precisely in
studies of Greek civilization--with its emphasis on the events of a
relatively short period, primarily in a particular exemplar of a single
group of cultures. Studies that appear to see fifth-century B.C.E Athens as
the defining experience of all civilization puzzle those whose interest lie
in other areas of the Mediterranean antiquity, and still more those
concerned with other regions of the world.

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