From: Paul F. Evans (
Date: Sat Feb 08 1997 - 09:19:22 EST

<html><html><head></head><BODY bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p><font size=2 color="#000000" face="Arial">Edgar and B-Greek List:<br><br>Edgar wrote:<br><br>Date: Thursday, February 06, 1997 10:19 PM<br><br>&gt; At this point I will only<br>&gt; say as as teaser that whether one accepts it as Pauline and dates it in the<br>&gt; sixties or whether one dates it as I do (one personal reaction thought I<br>&gt; was too conservative in dating in as early as I did!), <b><u>it involves a form<br>&gt; of circular reasoning from text to historical reconstruction and back to<br>&gt; see if the historical reconstruction illuminates the text. </u></b>That<br>&gt; characerizes ALL opinions about historical reconstructions, whether<br>&gt; &quot;consdrvative&quot; or not.<br><br>You may or may not remember my earlier question and comments with respect to this thread. &nbsp;I asked whether the interpretation of the text that places ESTI in the text to imply that &quot;All scripture <i>that is</i> inspired is...,&quot; did not involve
circular reasoning. &nbsp;However, my original question still stands partially unanswered; what are the objective grammatical reasons for placing the ESTI in the various locations suggested. Carl came closest with his obeservatins about theological presuppositions early on, and a few comments he made later. May be those who advocate the various positions could provide there reasons, without the historical considerations. &nbsp;If it turns out there are none apart from the hsitorical considerations then we have a totally different &quot;can or worms&quot; for Jonathans next fishing trip.<br><br>I would like to here an appraisal of why the conservative position also involves cicular reasoning to some degree. &nbsp;I have personally accepted that view of the text without being aware that it involves historical considerations in regards to the text. &nbsp;I guess I have acted more upon assumption than anything else.<br><br>Paul F. Evans<br>Pastor<br>Thunder Swamp Pentecostal Holiness Church<br>Mount Olive, NC<br
><br>&quot;Endeavouring to make use of NT Greek in a real life ministry!&quot; <br><br>----------<br><br></p>

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