From: Wes Williams (Wes.Williams@cybermktg.com)
Date: Sun Nov 30 1997 - 23:03:53 EST
> From: Martin Arhelger <email@example.com>
> Acts 5:3 - 4: Peter said: "Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to
> to the Holy Spirit ... You have not lied to men but to God." Acts 5:9 But
> Peter said to her (that is, Sapphira), "How is it that you have agreed
> together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? ..."
> This verses proof, that Peter had a clear awareness of a Holy Spirit
> a) a person (How could Ananias have lied to a thing or force ?)
This certainly is a reasonable question. In English it is akward to "lie"
to impersonal things. However, I find that in Greek this does not hold. For
example, we have James 3:14:
(from the Nestle-Aland Greek-English NT 8th Edition)
Greek: MH ... YEUDESQE KATA THS ALHQEIAS
English: Do not ... be false to the truth.
Alt: "lie against the truth"
I started to run a search of any occurrences of YEUDOMAI to impersonal
things in the LXX (or Classics?), but I am out of time. Perhaps someone
else can pick this up.
Therefore, Ananias could YEUDOMAI ("lie" "be false") to a thing or force
and therefore Acts 5:3,4 cannot be used to prove or disprove the "nature"
of PNEUMA hAGION.
I thought Carl's point about Luke's testimony of PNEUMA hAGION was
pertinent. Luke's first mention of PNEUMA hAGION compared it with "power"
in Luke 1:35:
h/Holy s/Spirit will come upon you and _power of the Most High_ will
I've always viewed the "spirit" much like Carl's illustration, as dynamic
personified energy that makes things happen, illustrated by electricity.
The electricity contrasted/ compared with the mere latent power that would
be stored in a battery ("power").
This should come from what the scriptures say about PNEUMA hAGION,
including the strong witness of the O.T.
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