From: Vincent Broman (
Date: Wed Apr 15 1998 - 11:57:35 EDT

> Latin has a
> distinct word, MUSTUM, for the newly-pressed juice of the grapes before it
> is processed and boiled down.

If Greek does not make the same distinction of UINUM vs. MUSTUM, then
it would appear the OINOS would refer to both fermented and unfermented
grape drinks. How would the two cases be distinguished?
Does OINOS NEOS refer to newly pressed juice or to newly fermented wine?

> the peril of
> intoxication was well-understood

I seem to remember from Durant's history that the Spartans would sometimes
get a slave drunk and ridicule his condition in front of some young people
in order to impress on them the shameful effects of drunkenness.

> the intoxicating effect of wine-drinking
> was generally considered a blessing and indeed a divinely-given one.

It seems to me that there must have been many circumstances where
a person was thirsty in hot weather, but still wanted to keep a clear head,
perhaps in preparation for weighty negotiations, public speaking, athletics,
or dangerous activities like hunting, horse-breaking, or war.
Water was not popular for drinking. What did a designated driver drink?
I seem to remember someone saying that OCUS was the gatorade of the 1st
century. Did Greek-speakers generally think that OINOS wasn't ready to
drink until it turned to wine or vinegar?

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