Date: Thu May 21 1998 - 11:15:11 EDT
Burt Rozema wrote:
> Bill Ross wrote:
> > BILL
> > >>Romans 4:25 in four translations:
> > >> RSV who was put to death for our trespasses and raised for
> > our justification.
> > >> KJV Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised
> > again for our justification.
> > >> DBY who has been delivered for our offences and has been
> > raised for our justification, it will be reckoned.
> > >> YLT who was delivered up because of our offences, and was
> > raised up because of our being declared righteous.
> > >>
> > >>The phrase DIA THN DIKAIWSIN hHMWN is treated oddly.
> > >>
> > >>I would want to translate it "through the justification of us". Wouldn't
> > >>that be better than any of these?
> > MARY
> > >One of those chants that's worth memorizing (as I tell my students
> > frequently):
> > >"DIA + genitive = "through"
> > >DIA + accusative = "on account of" "
> > BILL
> > So, would the best translation be "delivered on account of our offences and
> > has been raised on account of our justification" as opposed to "for our
> > justification"? My problem with "for" is that it sounds like "in order to
> > effect", rather than "as a effect of". It seems that the sense of "on
> > account of" is that we are dealing with the effect, not the cause.
> For DIA + acc. -- try "for the sake of" in addition to "on account of".
> That often works in situations like this.
Thanks, Burt ~
That is my sense of it in English as well, and in the Greek, the sense
that comes through for me is 'Through this consideration' in DIA plus
Accusative. I would imagine Bill is getting weary of all this by
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