From: Paul F. Evans (evans@wilmington.net)
Date: Thu Jul 02 1998 - 11:25:41 EDT
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=2>List,</FONT></FONT><FONT
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Thanks for you <FONT color=#000000>help on </FONT>the last
effort at a verse from Hebrews. Here goes another.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Heb. 11:6</FONT></DIV>
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<P><FONT size=2>CWRIS DE PISTEWS ADUNATON EUARESTHSAI PISTEUSAI GAR DEI TON
PROSERCOMENON TW QEW HOTI ESTIN KAI TOIS EKZHTOUSIN AUTON MISQAPODOTHS
GINETAI</FONT></P></FONT>
<P><FONT size=2>The elements of this sentence are swimming around in my head
like goldfish in bowl! I need help sorting it out. I knew I had
neglected my Greek skills lately but things are more rusty than I
thought.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=2>I guess it would be best to start with the
verbs, ESTIN, DEI & GINETAI? I assume that the subject of GINETAI is
the substantive <FONT color=#000000>participle </FONT>MISQAPODOTHS.
However, it is hard to make any sense of how this works without reference to the
earlier ESTIN, he is, in some way.</FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT color=#000000 size=2>The first part of the
sentence, <FONT size=2>CWRIS DE PISTEWS ADUNATON EUARESTHSAI,</FONT> seems
abrupt and incomplete. It begin a thought which never really comes to
completion unless somehow the later dative TW QEW linked to the infinitive
somehow. Or is it more likely that God is implied by the earlier reference
to Enoch having pleased (same word) God? </FONT></P>
<P><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT><FONT size=2>Then there is what I assume is
an impersonal verb DEI. Does this refer to the person coming, as we would
use the English "one who comes must..." or does it mean something like
"it is necessary for the one coming to God to believe..."? I
guess I am not sure how this impersonal idea works. I am wondering if it
is refers generically to the hypothetical seeker, or whether it refers to the
hypothetical condition of believing.</FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>The last part of the sentence that begins with
HOTI then seems to go back to PISTEUSAI, and somehow render the substance of
what is believe. How far out in left field am I? Please be gentle I
am feeling quite fragile today! </FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Now the KAI is it "and" or "also"?
Also makes more sense to me! but then what do I know. But then I am
still stuck with how KAI TOIS EKZHTOUSIN AUTON MISQAPODOTHS GINETAI actually
work.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Just help!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Rev. Paul F. Evans<BR>Pastor<BR>Wilmington
First Pentecostal Holiness Church<BR>MT. Olive, NC</FONT> </DIV>
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