Re. CWRIS DE PISTEWS ADUNATON EUARESTHSAI PISTEUSAI... Heb. 11:6

From: Paul F. Evans (evans@wilmington.net)
Date: Thu Jul 02 1998 - 11:25:41 EDT


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<DIV><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=2>List,</FONT></FONT><FONT
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Thanks for you <FONT color=#000000>help on </FONT>the last
effort at a verse from Hebrews.&nbsp; Here goes another.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Heb. 11:6</FONT></DIV>
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<P><FONT size=2>CWRIS DE PISTEWS ADUNATON EUARESTHSAI PISTEUSAI GAR DEI TON
PROSERCOMENON TW QEW HOTI ESTIN KAI TOIS EKZHTOUSIN AUTON MISQAPODOTHS
GINETAI</FONT></P></FONT>
<P><FONT size=2>The elements of this sentence are swimming around in my head
like goldfish in bowl!&nbsp; I need help sorting it out.&nbsp; I knew I had
neglected my Greek skills lately but things are more rusty than I
thought.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=2>I guess it would be best to start with the
verbs, ESTIN, DEI &amp; GINETAI?&nbsp; I assume that the subject of GINETAI is
the substantive <FONT color=#000000>participle </FONT>MISQAPODOTHS.&nbsp;
However, it is hard to make any sense of how this works without reference to the
earlier&nbsp; ESTIN, he is, in some way.</FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT color=#000000 size=2>The first part of the
sentence, <FONT size=2>CWRIS DE PISTEWS ADUNATON EUARESTHSAI,</FONT> seems
abrupt and incomplete.&nbsp; It begin a thought which never really comes to
completion unless somehow the later dative TW QEW linked to the infinitive
somehow.&nbsp; Or is it more likely that God is implied by the earlier reference
to Enoch having pleased (same word) God? </FONT></P>
<P><FONT color=#000000 size=2></FONT><FONT size=2>Then there is what I assume is
an impersonal verb DEI.&nbsp; Does this refer to the person coming, as we would
use the English &quot;one who comes must...&quot; or does it mean something like
&quot;it is necessary for the one coming to God to believe...&quot;?&nbsp; I
guess I am not sure how this impersonal idea works.&nbsp; I am wondering if it
is refers generically to the hypothetical seeker, or whether it refers to the
hypothetical condition of believing.</FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>The last part of the sentence that begins with
HOTI then seems to go back to PISTEUSAI, and somehow render the substance of
what is believe.&nbsp; How far out in left field am I?&nbsp; Please be gentle I
am feeling quite fragile today! </FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Now the KAI is it &quot;and&quot; or &quot;also&quot;?&nbsp;
Also makes more sense to me!&nbsp; but then what do I know.&nbsp; But then I am
still stuck with how KAI TOIS EKZHTOUSIN AUTON MISQAPODOTHS GINETAI actually
work.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Just help!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>Rev. Paul F. Evans<BR>Pastor<BR>Wilmington
First&nbsp; Pentecostal Holiness Church<BR>MT. Olive, NC</FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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