Re: Mark 6:31 DEUTE hUMEIS AUTOI

From: Jonathan Robie (jonathan@texcel.no)
Date: Sun Aug 30 1998 - 17:27:56 EDT


At 4:07 AM -0500 8/30/98, Jim West wrote:
>At 08:34 AM 8/30/98 -0400, you wrote:
>>This must be obvious, but I'm just not getting it. In Mark 6:31, I don't
>>see the function of AUTOI:
>>
>>Mark 6:31 DEUTE hUMEIS *AUTOI* KAT' IDIAN EIS ERHMON TOPON KAI ANAPAUSASQE
>>OLIGON

>Autoi intensifies humeis- you yourselves give.... cause this is a desert
>place and the folka re coming and going and I dont want 'em to ....
>
>The use of autos as an intensifier of the pronouns is fairly common, if I
>recall...

My problem here is simply that the intensifier doesn't make sense to me in
this context. The apostles come to Jesus and tell him all that they have
done and all that they have taught, then Jesus says "you *yourselves* come
alone into the desert place and rest a little"? I've been trying to read
this as an intensifier, and I don't see what it means in this context. What
would be the difference in meaning between these two phrases:

DEUTE hUMEIS *AUTOI* KAT' IDIAN EIS ERHMON TOPON
DEUTE hUMEIS KAT' IDIAN EIS ERHMON TOPON

The second makes sense to me, the first still doesn't - they should come
themselves? One translation I've looked at seems to treat AUTOI KAT' IDIAN
as a phrase meaning "by yourselves" - is this reasonable? Or is there some
simple way to understand AUTOI as an intensifier here that is just eluding
my weary synapses?

Jonathan

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