From: Carl W. Conrad (email@example.com)
Date: Tue Oct 27 1998 - 16:25:44 EST
<x-flowed>At 1:28 PM -0700 10/27/98, Jamie Macleod wrote:
>I am a newbie to biblical greek. I was wondering why the neutered form of
>'one' (hEN) is used in the first two verses (John 10:30& 17:22), while the
>masculine form, hEIS, is used in the example given from John 6:70.
>I was reading a commentary which stated the neutered form is used because it
>is not a complete oneness (ie not a oneness of essence but a oneness of
>persons) Is this a valid statement, or is the commentator imposing his own
>views on this? Any insight into the use of hEIS is welcome. Thank you.
>John 10:30 I and my Father are one.
EGW KAI hO PATHR hEN ESMEN.
>John 17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they
>may be one, even as we are one:
... hINA WSIN hEN KAQWS hHMEIS hEN.
>John 6:70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of
>you is a devil?
EX hUMWN hEIS DIABOLOS ESTIN.
I'd say that in the first two hEN means "one thing"--a unity, and in each
of these instances hEN is the predicate word: the body of believers is to
be a unity; Father and Son are a unity; in 6:70 however, hEIS is the
subject with a partitive genitive, and I'd say it is masculine because the
believers in this group are all masculine (i.e. hUMWN must be a masculine
plural), or actually just as likely it is hEIS because the predicate noun
in this case is the masculine DIABOLOS. I think these are very different
items: where we have hEN, we're talking about a unity, ONE THING, whereas
in 6:70 we're talking about an individual, ONE PERSON.
Carl W. Conrad
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