From: John Oaklands (email@example.com)
Date: Sun May 09 1999 - 20:56:12 EDT
Thank you George. You seem to me to be on track and what you wrote is
--- George Blaisdell <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> >From: John Oaklands
> Hello John ~
> >How is EDWKEN understood in John 5:26? Does this
> refer to the
> >incarnation as of John 1:4 EN AUTWi ZWH HN or, as
> some have even
> >suggested, to the resurrection? How does EDWKEN
> make sense in the
> >light of John 1:4? I even have trouble with the
> >*granted*--does any one else?
> hWSPER GAR hO PATHR ECEI ZWHN EN hEAUTW
> hOUTWS KAI TWi hUIWi EDWKEN ZWHN ECEIN EN hEAUTW
> For just as the Father is having life in Himself
> Thusly even to the Son He gives life in Himself.
> I think it does refer to EN AUTWi ZWH HN in 1:4,
> although I have always
> understood 1:4 to be pre or pan incarnational ~ That
> is, a permanent
> attribution of hO LOGOS, who did incarnate.
> Here he simply seems to be attributing the giving of
> His life that is in
> Himself to the Father, who is the source of His
> having it in himself.
> The HN of 1:4 I have taken to mean 'has always been
> and continues to be and
> will continue to be' ~ At least in terms or our
> experience of time. HN
> places Him 'prior' to ARCH [beginning]. As God's
> Word in the creation, His
> source is God, who "EDWKEN" to Him life.
> There are surely ressurrectional implications to all
> this, but this little
> passage does not seem to address them. The rest of
> this section, however,
> clearly does. [5:21, 28-9, etc.]
> Am I addressing your question?
> George Blaisdell
> Roslyn, WA
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