RE: Matt 28:17 some or all doubted?

From: Pete Phillips (p.m.phillips@cliff.shef.ac.uk)
Date: Mon Jul 19 1999 - 12:08:21 EDT


Yes, but, the text says that the 11 are the only ones in the narrative frame. Do these OI DE refer to a group who are antithetical to the 11 and also outside this narrative frame? Either the doubters are a subset of the 11 or why doesnlt Matthew use ETEROI or some similar marker to point outside this narrative frame?

Pete Phillips

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From: Carl W. Conrad [SMTP:cwconrad@artsci.wustl.edu]
Sent: Monday, July 19, 1999 4:47 PM
To: Biblical Greek
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Subject: Re: Matt 28:17 some or all doubted?

At 10:54 PM +1000 7/19/99, Tim Duke wrote:
>"KAI IDONTES AUTON PROSEKUNHSAN, hOI DE EDISTASAN."
>
>ought the hOI DE in Matt 28:17 be translated 'some', or does it refer
>collectively to the whole group?
>I can find no parallel instance where such a construction has been
>translated 'some'.
>Most translations are otherwise quite consistent: they use 'some' to
>translate a hOI MEN, ...., hOI DE phrase or a TINES + Genitive Plural,
>but never a hOI DE phrase by itself.

I think that the hOI DE is "others" in antithesis to 18:16 hOI DE hENDEKA;
of course the DE there is simply a continuative particle, but it certainly
would appear that the hOI DE as subject to EDISTASAN must indicate a group
antithetical to the Eleven.

Carl W. Conrad
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