From: Carl W. Conrad (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Sat Sep 04 1999 - 13:16:42 EDT
At 12:49 PM -0500 9/4/99, Joseph Brian Tucker wrote:
>Thanks for the very helpful post.
>PAULOS KAI TIMOQEOS DOULOI CRISTOU IHSOU PASIN TOIS hAGIOIS EN CRISTOWi
>IHSOU TOIS OUSIN EN FILIPPOIS SUN EPISKOPOIS KAI DIAKONOIS,
>CARIS hUMIN KAI EIRHNH APO QEOU PATROS hHMWN KAI KURIOU IHSOU CRISTOU.
>What verb is implied in verse 2 and what would be its form?
The verb "to be" is commonly omitted in this sort of statement; in this
instance I think what would be called for is a 3d person imperative for
such as ESTW (or if one wants a verb to go with both CARIS and EIRHNH,
ESTWSAN. But older English translations would be "Grace and peace BE to
you"--where the "be" is a subjunctive. But that's pretty archaic English
>What is the syntactical relationship between QEOU PATROS hMWN KAI KURIOU
>IHSOU CHISTOU? Does this imply a distinction? If this is theological feel
>free to ignore it, my purpose is to understand if the grammar indicates a
I think the phrasing suggests that there's a distinction being made, yes,
between two 'persons'--at any rate there's absolutely nothing in the
phraseology of the text here that clearly indicates identity of the two.
Carl W. Conrad
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