From: Carl W. Conrad (
Date: Mon Nov 08 1999 - 11:26:28 EST

I think this message came to me because I sent the last message in the
thread, but so far as I can tell, I think it's really directed to the list,
so I am forwarding it.

>From: "Jeffrey White" <>
>To: "Carl W. Conrad" <>
>Subject: Re: ELPIS and PISTIS
>Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 11:03:59 -0500
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>Perhaps the best approach is to understand PISTIS, ELPIS, and AGAPH as a
>progression as Paul implies in 1.Corinthians 13:13 - PISTIS is given by God
>(Ephesians 2:8), ELPIS comes forth or is born of the given PISTIS, and AGAPH
>develops from ELPIS. The 3 major OT feasts certainly fit this pattern. Since
>Yahweh commanded Moses to build the Tabernacle as a 3-part structure (outer
>court, inner court, holiest of all) to serve as a pattern of the heavenly
>things, it would be consistent for NT truths to likewise be expressed in
>3-part fashion, with the first element relating to the either the believer's
>starting point/realm of spiritual experience or to the perspective of God
>(in Moses, the holiest of all was described first, but the priests had to
>enter through the outer court.)
>1C 13:13: "nuni de menei pistis, elpis, agaph, ta tria tauta. meizwn de
>toutwn 'h agaph"
>The usage of 'meizwn' in this verse is what indicates to me that Paul is
>expressing a progression from PISTIS to AGAPH. The same 3-part character of
>'basileia tou qeou' is also expressed in Romans 14:17:
>Ro 14:17: "ou gar estin 'e basileia tou qeou brwsis kai posis, alla
>DIKAIOSUNH kai EIRENH kai CARA en pneumati 'agiw"
>Jeffrey White

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