Re: Mt. 4:17

From: Steven Craig Miller (
Date: Sat Jan 29 2000 - 17:03:38 EST

<x-flowed>To: David A Bielby,

<< I'm wondering if the phrase in Mt 4:17 "hO IHSOUS KHRUSSEIN KAI LEGEIN"
is idiomatic simply meaning Jesus began preaching...or should I look for
more significance here...perhaps reference to two separate styles of
communication....? >>

Hmm ... "two separate styles of communication"? As if the Matthean Jesus
could perhaps preach without speaking? That would be novel! Or perhaps the
novel part (since the two words are connected by KAI) was that the Matthean
Jesus actually said something while he preached?

I believe that most scholars would simply take LEGEIN as being redundant.
In fact the NRSV translates: "From the time Jesus began to proclaim ...",
simply dropping "and to say." Although not quite parallel, one can find a
redundant use of LEGW at Mt 3:2 and 10:7. But I wouldn't be surprised if
there are better examples, since this construction doesn't strike me as

-Steven Craig Miller
Alton, Illinois (USA)
FWIW: I'm neither a clergy-person, nor an academic (and I have no post-grad

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