Re: Luke 11:1

From: Carl W. Conrad (cwconrad@artsci.wustl.edu)
Date: Sat Jun 17 2000 - 08:05:00 EDT


At 4:26 PM -0400 6/16/00, Cassian DelCogliano wrote:
>What is the force of KATWS KAI in Luke 1:11?
>
>KATWS is ordinarily called a comparative conjunction, but it seems here to
>blend into a causal use. KAI seems to me to be used for emphasis, i.e.
>'even, also, indeed, etc.' The real question is whether KATWS KAI is
>purely comparative or at least partly causal, so that the disciples
>question could be paraphrased: Teach us to pray, because that it what John
>did for his disciples and we want to be in the same relationship to you as
>John's disciples were to him.
>
>Any thoughts on this? Thanks much!

I think that any causal implication derives not from the word but rather
from the whole context; it seems to me that there's an implicit but
unstated hOUTWS involved in the DIDAXON hHMAS PROSEUCESQAI: "Even as John
taught his disciples, (so) you also teach us to pray." I think the
authoritative status of John vis--vis his disciples is indeed the implicit
basis of the request, but I don't think it requires us to assume that KAQWS
in this instance assumes a quasi-causal force. But the same might not hold
so true Pauline or deutero-Pauline usage.

--

Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University
Summer: 1647 Grindstaff Road/Burnsville, NC 28714/(828) 675-4243
cwconrad@artsci.wustl.edu OR cwconrad@ioa.com
WWW: http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~cwconrad/

---
B-Greek home page: http://sunsite.unc.edu/bgreek
You are currently subscribed to b-greek as: [jwrobie@mindspring.com]
To unsubscribe, forward this message to leave-b-greek-327Q@franklin.oit.unc.edu
To subscribe, send a message to subscribe-b-greek@franklin.oit.unc.edu




This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.4 : Sat Apr 20 2002 - 15:36:29 EDT