[b-greek] Topic/Comment & Pt of Departure Mk 9:10

From: clayton stirling bartholomew (c.s.bartholomew@worldnet.att.net)
Date: Thu Jul 13 2000 - 15:46:31 EDT

This is a compound/complex question.

Looking at TON LOGON in Mk 9:10 it seems that this is a topic/comment*
clause where TON LOGON is the topic and there is a primary comment
(EKRATHSAN . . .) and possibly a secondary comment (SUZHTOUNTES . . .). It
also seems that TON LOGON may serve as a point of departure, but this may
be dependent on what we determine to be the referent of LOGON.

If we take the referent of LOGON to be the whole experience of the
transfiguration (Mk 9:1-9) then I would argue that TON LOGON serves also as
a point of departure since it sums up the whole previous scene and
introduces a transition to the next scene.

However, this approach leaves the second comment found in Mk 9:10
(SUZHTOUNTES . . .) hanging in the air. On the other hand, if we understand
the referent of LOGON to be restricted to hO hUIOS TOU ANQRWPOIU EK NEKRWN
ANASTHi, then both the primary and secondary comments seem to make sense. If
we accept this analysis then TO LOGON is still the topic but it seems less
likely that it serves as a point of departure since it does not really
provide a transition between two high level constituents (paragraphs).

So it seems that we need to determine the referent of LOGON to proceed with
the analysis of the discourse function of TO LOGON and the topic/comment
structure of MK 9:10. However there is something of a chicken/egg problem
here. Do we proceed from an analysis of the discourse structure to a
solution of the LOGON referent question or do we solve the LOGON referent
question first by some other means and use our conclusion about the referent
of LOGON to help us analyze the discourse structure.

Clayton Stirling Bartholomew
Three Tree Point
P.O. Box 255 Seahurst WA 98062

* See chapter 2 in : Levinsohn, Stephen Discourse Features of New
Testament Greek, 2nd Ed. SIL 2000.

*See also discussion of topic/comment and point of departure in:
Dik, Simon. The Theory of Functional Grammar (Part 1), Mouton de Gruyter

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