From: Blahoslav Cicel (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Wed Sep 27 2000 - 06:07:13 EDT
Thank you (and also to David Roe, Dennis Hukel and Steven Shannon) for your
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carl W. Conrad [mailto:email@example.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 2:31 PM
>ARA hH PISTIS EX AKOHS, hH DE AKOH DIA PHMATOS QEOU (or CRISTOU).
Steve translates it:
"So then our faith comes from a report, and the report through a message
Dennis agrees with Carl in
> causal DIA normally construes with an accusative--pointing to the
> object of
> DIA as a key causal factor in whatever is being asserted; here we have DIA
> with the genitive,which ordinarily indicates mediating factor, agent, or
> means; in this instance I think DIA hRHMATOS means "through the
> instrumentality of the word," i.e. "by means of the word."
> >ad 2)
> I don't think there's anything in the construction itself that can clearly
> identify it as subjective or objective; nevertheless I'd opt for
> genitive because it seems to me easier to refer it to QEOS/CRISTOS LEGEI
> than to LEGEI TIS QEON/CRISTON.
> For example, are there other instances of hRHMA CRISTOU/QEOU? I can't find
> any other instance of hRHMA CRISTOU, but I find three of hRHMA QEOU (Lk
> 3:2; Eph 6:17, and Heb 11:3); in each of these the phrase is
> derivative from the Hebraic DVR IHWH, and I would think that settles the
> matter in favor of its being subjective genitive: "the Word which
> Christ/God has spoken."
This is very usefull for me.
God bless you all.
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