[b-greek] Re: Locative -DE in NT Greek

From: Carl W. Conrad (cwconrad@artsci.wustl.edu)
Date: Wed Oct 04 2000 - 15:22:44 EDT

At 11:45 AM -0700 10/4/00, clayton stirling bartholomew wrote:
>Working in Homer's Iliad I have come across the locative -DE suffix which
>made me stop and think about the locative -He suffix in Hebrew which has
>parallels in Ugaritic (See Waltke/O'Conner, Syntax, #10.5).
>I decided to look for remnants of the locative -DE in NT Greek and found one
>or two possible candidates. hWDE and EVQANDE are defined in L&N: "a position
>relatively near the speaker, writer, or viewpoint person - 'here.'"
>Also hODE looks like it might have some secondary semantic features that
>might connect it with the locative -DE, again L&N define hODE "a reference
>to an entity regarded as relatively present in terms of the discourse
>setting, whether preceding or following." This notion of being " relatively
>present" is both temporal and local. LEH gives the following glosses for
>hODE in the LXX "this (demonstrative pron.), here" and LS (abridged) ". .
>. to designate the nearer as opp. to the more remote . . . ."
>I am speculating that in Homer and Biblical Hebrew the locative -DE and -He
>are old language features well established and on the decline. The -He
>locative is attested in other ANE languages such as Ugaritic but I have no
>idea where the -DE locative came from.

I've always thought of -DE as a directional suffix like Eng. "-ward(s)" in
"to-ward(s)" or "home-ward"--so Greek OIKADE = "homewards", AQHNAZE =
AQHNAS-DE = "to Athens" or "Athens-ward,' etc.; similarly the directional
(ablatival) suffix -QEN in OIKOQEN = "from home" or ENQEN, which can be
either spatial or temporal in the sense, "from there" or "from that point
in time, thereafter." So AQHNHQEN = "from Athens." ENQEN and hOQEN ("from
which place") do appear in the NT; I had thought OIKADE was there too, but
a search doesn't disclose it. I think these directional suffixes were far
more common in earlier stages of the history of Greek--certainly there are
lots of them in Homer--and that they are relatively rare survivors in the


Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics/Washington University
One Brookings Drive/St. Louis, MO, USA 63130/(314) 935-4018
Home: 7222 Colgate Ave./St. Louis, MO 63130/(314) 726-5649

B-Greek home page: http://metalab.unc.edu/bgreek
You are currently subscribed to b-greek as: [jwrobie@mindspring.com]
To unsubscribe, forward this message to leave-b-greek-327Q@franklin.oit.unc.edu
To subscribe, send a message to subscribe-b-greek@franklin.oit.unc.edu

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.4 : Sat Apr 20 2002 - 15:36:37 EDT