From: Clayton Javurek (javurek@asu.edu)
Date: Tue Nov 21 2000 - 11:51:34 EST

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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Clayton Javurek</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>E-MAIL: javurek@asu.edu</FONT>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Seeing that MOST people (75% of them) will not exert</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>the effort to learn details and memorize vocabulary words</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>and practice doing Greek, I would assume that students</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>will take the shortest and easiest route (just like</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>the flow of electricity and water). Therefore, I have</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>adapted GREEK FOR DUMMIES which eliminates nearly</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>90% of memorization and immediately plunges them</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>into the Greek text. This GREEK FOR DUMMIES class is </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>NOT intended to replace academic training.</FONT>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Tools Needed:</FONT>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>1. Greek English Interlinear NT by Marshall (no vocabulary memorization needed)</FONT>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>2. Analytical Lexicon to the Greek NT by Mounce (no grammatical memorization needed)</FONT>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>3. Greek English Lexicon by Thayer (inexpensive but effective lexicon)</FONT>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Students will have to memorize the Greek alphabet and the cases of the noun articles.</FONT>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Students will be able to grammatically parse any word in the Interlinear Greek NT</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>and find its root word with the use of Mounce.</FONT>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Students will be able to look up the lexical meaning of any root word</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>in the Greek NT with the combined use of Mounce and Thayer.</FONT>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>The purpose of GREEK FOR DUMMIES is to get them started and to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>feel comfortable with the Interlinear Greek NT. If they want</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>to go on to formally learn Greek Grammar, they can do so</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>in a formal academic setting. I have found that drop out rates</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>in GREEK FOR DUMMIES is about 10% - 20%. Why, because memorization</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>is kept to a minimum, students always know where they are at</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>when reading the Interlinear NT, and students can research any</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>word in the Greek NT.</FONT>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: Mark Wilson [<A HREF="mailto:emory2oo2@hotmail.com">mailto:emory2oo2@hotmail.com</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 9:07 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: Biblical Greek</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: [b-greek] Greek 101 drop outs - Follow up</FONT>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Carl wrote:</FONT>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>I tell students in the opening class that they should drop immediately </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>unless they are prepared to work industriously and consistently for the real </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>rewards which will come only when they have mastered an awful lot of</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>tedious rote learning and achieved a good grip on the Greek verb as well as </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>a powerful lot of vocabulary.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>----</FONT>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>What I think this statement might do, as much unconsciously as consciously, </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>is to put students in a stressed out pre-disposition toward learning Greek. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>(Remember, there may be many sitting in your class that will just find it </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>much easier to learn than us B-Greekers did. Maybe Greek will just come </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>natural to them... who knows.)</FONT>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Consider this: Suppose you used the opposite approach. Suppose you told your </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>students that learning Greek is quite easy and extremely rewarding. In fact, </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>by the end of this first year, you will be able to translate many passages </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>in the Bible. And further, you will not believe how quickly you will begin </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>picking up more advanced Greek, because it all builds on previously learned </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>material.</FONT>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>And then, of course, you go into my previous posting, and begin the sales </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>job, etc. :o )</FONT>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>But what happens is this relaxes the students. Their entire disposition </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>begins with a radically different paradigm.</FONT>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>And don't feel like they have to learn a lot of material by some end point. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>(That may be imposed on you by your University or Seminary, but only you </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>know how tough it was for you when your Greek teacher taught you. Why put </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>your students through THAT.)</FONT>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>They have the rest of their lives to learn it. Simply tell them this: &quot;We </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>all learn at different rates, so just how fast you progress and advance will </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>relate to how much time you invest. And like any language, if you do not </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&quot;keep it up&quot; you begin to forget and eventually lose what you had learned. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>So, never stop learning Greek, if only a little a day (or week). But </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>remember folks: learning Greek is only a means to an end: knowing Him.&quot;</FONT>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>And once you teach them just a few basic declensions and conjugations, and </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>they then &quot;translate&quot; John 1:1, just watch their eyes! (Imagine what happens </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>to their interests and motivations when they are translating ALREADY!)</FONT>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>After they do this, here is what I would say: &quot;Well, essentially, you have </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>learned Greek. That's all there is to it. For the rest of your life you will </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>begin learning more vocabulary words and grammatical principles which will </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>allow you to translate more and more of the Bible...</FONT>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>So, congratulations... you are well on your way to understanding the BIBLE. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>(Notice I did not use the word &quot;Greek&quot; here. Pretty sneaky, eh?)&quot;</FONT>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Finally, most of us on this list, I would imagine, have a very strong desire </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>to learn Greek, so very little is going to detour us. But imagine how many </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>dropped out because of their &quot;fear.&quot; (A fear that was unfounded.)</FONT>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>BTW, I wonder how many drop outs had a natural ability to retain Greek</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>vocabulary, declensions, conjugations, grammar, etc... only to conclude </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>after Greek 101, &quot;Well my teacher said it is going to get really hard, so I </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>better drop out now before I get in too deep.&quot;</FONT>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Today's motto: Teachers: be very upbeat, creative, and &quot;sneaky&quot;&nbsp; :o )</FONT>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Still rambling... sorry.</FONT>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Mark Wilson</FONT>

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