From: Moon-Ryul Jung (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Sat Feb 03 2001 - 04:45:00 EST
I would like to discuss the following translation of Rom 4:1:
What then shall we say? [Have we] found Abraham [to be]
our forefather according to the flesh?
This translation is based on the following parsing:
Rom 4:1 TI OUN EROUMEN? EUREKENAI ABRAHAM TON PROPATORA HMWN
Hays suggested the above reading. He surveyed Paul's other uses of
TI OUN EROUMEN, which occurs only in Romans (3.5, 6.1., 7.7,
8:31, 9.14, 9.30). In every case except for 8:31, this expression
forms a complete sentence. This observation is the basis of the
above reading. But it makes the infinite clause following
TI OUN EROUMEN to play as a sentence. Would it be possible?
(2) Here the point of the passage is whether Abraham is our forefather
ACCORDING TO THE FLESH OR NOT. The fact that Abraham is our
forefather is assumed. Here the prepositional phrase is understood
to be adverbial. This is fine, because the article does not
precede the phrase. A rendering "our forefather according to
the flesh" which takes KATA SARKA as adjectival should be
considered when the other way is not feasible. In this regard,
the above reading seems fine.
(3) The typical interpretation may be represented by the following
What then shall we say Abraham to have found according to the flesh?
It makes TI the object of EURHKENAI, and it makes the sentence
quite complicated. It seems to be a disadvantage of the typical
(4) Wouldn't the typical rendering require the following?
TI OUN EROUMEN ABRAHAM TON PROPATORA HMWN EUREKENAI
Sogang Univ, Seoul, Korea
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