From: Moon-Ryul Jung (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Sat Feb 10 2001 - 19:24:41 EST
great! Your rendering makes a perfect sense and gives
life to the verse at hand. "Abraham is the father of us all in the sight
the God whom He believed"! It makes sense especially because
Paul was trying to argue in chapter 4 that Abraham, to whom the promise is
made, is the father of both the Jews and the Gentile believers. That might
not have been obvious to the human eyes, but was so in the sight of God.
Thanks for the insight.
Sogang Univ, Seoul, Korea
> Dear Moon,
> You write about Rom 4:16-17:
> >DIA TOUTO EK PISTEWS, hINA KATA CARIN, EIS TO EINAI BEBAIAN
> THN EPAGGELIAN PANTI TWi SPERMATI, OU TWi EK TOU NOMOU MONON ALLA KAI TWi
> EK PISTEWS ABRAAM, hOS ESTIN PATHR PANTWN hHMWN,KAQWS GEGRAPTAI hOTI PATERA
> POLLWN EQNWN TEQEIKA SE, KATENANTI hOU EPISTEUSEN QEOU TOU ZWOPOIOUNTOS
> TOUS NEKROUS KAI KALOUNTOS TA MH ONTA hWS ONTA.
> >In fact, the reason for my attempt to make KATENANTI hOU EPISTEUSEN QEOU
> ...... an independent sentence was that I could not find a good verb
> phrase to hang the clause on.
> Even "who IS the father of us all....BEFORE the
> God whom he believed" does not make a good sense to me.
> Moon, I do not see any problem with the view that this clause, which is
> really a prepositional phrase, goes with "who is the father of us all."
> KATENANTI would then have the standard lexical sense of "in the sight of,"
> meaning here "in the judgment of." It would modify ESTIN adverbially.
> Abraham is the father of us all in the estimation of the One who He
> believed. That One happens to be God, who brings the dead to life and calls
> what does not exist into existence.
> Harold Holmyard
> Dallas, TX, USA
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