From: Moon-Ryul Jung (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Tue Feb 13 2001 - 09:27:02 EST
I think that there is some confusion about terminology here.
By "participial clause" Carl seems to refer to participles plus their
subjects. By "participle" or "participial phrase" he would refer to
participle phrases that do not have their subjects. For example,
what is called "genitive absolute" is a participial clause.
> > >> > >> >In Gal 3:8 we have:
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >PROIDOUSA DE hH GRAFH hOTI EK PISTEWS DIKAIOI TA EQNH hO QEOS,
> > >> > >> >PROEUANGGELISATO TWi ABRAHAM hOTI ENEULOGHQHSONTAI EN SOI
> > >> > >> >PANTA TA EQNH.
> Carl said:
> > Well, I'd say we don't HAVE a participial clause here; rather we have a
> > subject, hH GRAFH and a circumstantial participle explaining WHY "scripture
> > fore-evangelized to Abraham."
> When N-A and the UBS Greek texts put a comma after QEOS I interpreted this to
> mean that the first line above was considered by these editors to be a
> participial clause. How do you interpret that comma? How do they decide where to
> put commas?
> I can see that there could just be one main clause with hH GRAFH as subject and
> the complex participial construction could modify the subject as part of an NP
> (S). Are there particular grammatical reasons that lead you to opt for not
> interpreting this as a participial dependant clause? Would you then not put a
> comma after QEOS? I don't think it makes any difference to the meaning, but I am
> interested in the grammatical reasons for one analysis rather than the other.
> The connector DE was left out originally, so I have put it back in. Does this
> word make any difference to the grammatical analysis?
> Or are we referring to the same thing with different grammatical terms? I am not
> familiar with all the traditional English terms used in describing Greek
> Would, say, Mat 2:22 then also have a circumstantial participle rather than a
> participial clause?
> AKOUSAS DE hOTI ARCELAOS BASILEUEI THS IOUDAIAS ANTI TOU PATROS AUTOU hHRWIDOU
> EFOBHQH EKEI APELQEIN.
Here, AKOUSAS DE HOTI... is a participial phrase because it does not have
an explicit subject.
Sogang Univ, Seoul, Korea
> Iver Larsen
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