[b-greek] Re: John 1:3-5

From: Harry W. Jones (hjbluebird@aol.com)
Date: Mon Oct 08 2001 - 00:12:59 EDT

Dear Joe again,

I really wasn't thinking about you probably not having GGBB,BDF
or Smyth. Smyth is online and BDF only gives the paraphase of
Nonnus as, "of what concern is that to you or me?" Which is
actually a paraphase of, "TI EMOI H(or) SOI, GUNAI"

Harry Jones

> Dear Joe,
> I believe your question on John 2:4 was covered on the List in the past at
> sometime. Seems like I remember Carl giving the answer. But verse four is
> covered by Wallace in GGBB on page 150 as being an idiom meaning something
> like,"What do I have to do with you?" or "What do we have in common? Leave
> me alone!" Also you might check BDF 299.3 and Smyth sec.1479-80.
> Harry Jones
> > I have been working on my translation of John to keep up with Greek until
> > seminary. This passage presents an odd dialogue when read in the English.
> > To paraphrase, Mary says to her son, "We ran out of wine." He returns, "What
> > have I to do with you, woman." And, she replies by telling servants to do
> > whatever Jesus tells them to do.
> >
> > It looks as if several sentences were deleted; so, for now, I am thinking
> > verse 4 "TI EMOI KAI SOI, GUVAI; OUPW NKEI N WPA MOU" may possibly be an
> > idiom. Below, I have added some of my own research on the verse 5. I was
> > hoping it would help explain the structure; however, I am thinking verse 4
> > may be the key.
> >
> > Any help in understanding this passage would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> >
> > Verse 5:
> >
> > TI AV LEGN UMIV POINSATE (whatever he says to do, do)
> >
> > LEGN- 2nd, singular, middle, future, indicative
> >
> > IAW BAGD, when AV is used with a future sense in apodosis, it is used to
> > "show that the condition and its results are thought of as in the future of
> > a single and repeated action." (BAGD 48)
> >
> > Joe Crane
> > CEO, Navigator Business Services
> > The Write Tools for Your Business

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