From: Carl W. Conrad (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Sat Oct 27 2001 - 07:49:03 EDT
At 12:49 PM +0000 10/26/01, Mark Wilson wrote:
>> Regarding , TOUTO GAR ESTIN TO QELHMA TOU PATPOS MOU, hINA
>>PAS hO QEWRWN TON hUION KAI PISTEUWN EIS AUTON ECHi ZWHN
>>AIWNION, KAI ANASTHSW AUTON EGW [EN] THi ESCATHi.
>> It seems to me that hO QEWRWN and PISTEUWN represents an
>>on going process that results in ZWHN AIWNION and ANASTHSW.
>To nobody's surprise I am sure, I would simply say: No. The
>Present tense does not denote on-going action. Any "on-going" aspect
>would be inherent in a verb's Lexical Aspect. Grammatical Aspect
>does NOT denote "on-going" action. And I just don't see how one
>can argue for a "on-going" aspect with these verbs
>in this context, but concerning the ptc PISTEUWN here...
>In fairness, I would point you to Wallace's GGBB, pg. 621. footnote 22.
>When I first read it, I fell out of my chair. Then, after I got up,
>I realized that one's theology deeply affects one's grammatical
>conclusions (which, if true, should also inform you as to why
>I hold to my position).
>My (theological) thoughts, :o )
A curious comment. I DO think Wallace's note is plausible, which doesn't
mean that I necessarily agree with it. Nevertheless, I'd agree with Mark's
statement about the two present participles in question, that they need not
necessarily indicate continuous action. I think that substantival
participles especially tend to be like agent nouns and that the durative
aspect of the present isn't necessarily involved.
Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics, Washington University (Emeritus)
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