From: Carl W. Conrad (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Mon Nov 05 2001 - 07:27:24 EST
At 11:57 AM +0000 11/5/01, Maurice A. O'Sullivan wrote:
>At 16:39 04/11/01, Keith Thompson wrote:
>>So would the aorist middle imperative be DUNOU or something?
>The -OU ending is the _present_ active imperative, 2nd. sg. and the aorist
>imperative 2nd. sg. for 2nd. ( a.k.a strong ) aorists
Maurice, I think that you meant for middle-passive of thematic verbs in
present and aorist (i.e. second aorist), NOT active.
>-AI is the regular aorist middle imperative ending-- for 1st aorists ( here
>we are getting into tricky territory, so I'll leave you to explore the
>minefield that is 1st aorists and 2nd. aorists <g> ).
>Suffice to say that the 1st. aorist of DUNAMAI is EDUNHSAMHN, making the
(a) One might think that DUNAMAI should form an aorist EDUNHSAMHN, but it
doesn't. In the GNT it is regularly HDUNHQHN (which is to say: in
traditional misguided parlance, it's called a 'passive deponent'); the
earlier form of this in Attic (and frequently in the LXX) is EDUNASQHN or
more commonly HDUNASQHN.
(b) I for one cannot quite imagine what an imperative of DUNAMAI would
mean. I think of Kant's DU KANSST, DENN DU SOLLST ("you can because you
should") and I think of Vergil's POSSUNT QUIA POSSE VIDENTUR ("they can
because they think they can") and I think of the Little Engine that Could
which keeps saying to itself, "I think I can, I think I can"--but I can't
quite imagine a command or exhortation to a person to be able.
>>The only lexicons I have are 'A Manual Greek Lexicon Of The New Testament'
>>by Abbott-Smith, and 'Langenscheidt's Pocket Dictionary (Classical
>>Greek)'. I've been out of work and broke for a long time but now I can
>>afford to buy books again. Would BAGD (or BDAG) provide extra help in
>>studying the New Testament as well as works outside it?
>Oh, the primary use _IS_ for NT work --- most users would just cast an eye
>over the bit referring to B and D and pass on.
>BTW, there is an excellent on-line tool for analyzing any Greek form you
>come across -- it is the Perseus site http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/
>( it is mirrored at Oxford which should be a lot faster for you.)
>When the main page comes up, click on top LH "Classics" and then change the
>window for Table of Contents to " Perseus Tools and Info ".
>Scroll down until you reach Morphological Analysis ( then go to Configure
>Display and the Help files to get the most out of the site )
>Maurice A. O'Sullivan
>" With computers we can now misinterpret Scripture at speeds never before
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