[b-greek] Re: Philippians 1:27

From: Polycarp66@aol.com
Date: Sat Mar 23 2002 - 21:18:53 EST

<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>In a message dated 3/23/2002 8:42:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, slovullo@mac.com writes:
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">First, why is AKOUW not the "expected" verb to complete the purpose clause?
<BR>How can anyone know what verb to "expect" in a purpose clause? What verb
<BR>SHOULD we expect? Since AKOUW may be subjunctive, what is there to keep us
<BR>from construing it with hINA? Construing as I have done makes perfect sense:
<BR>"Only conduct yourselves in a manner worthy of the gospel of Christ, so that
<BR>... I may hear about your situation [as those who ARE conducting themselves
<BR>in such a manner], that you are standing firm in one spirit, etc." His
<BR>purpose in exhorting them to conduct themselves in a manner worthy of the
<BR>gospel is that he may hear a good report about those things that accompany
<BR>or comprise living in such a manner, whether he hears it personally in their
<BR>presence or from sources in his absence. Rhetorically, this is a challenge
<BR>from a leader to those whom he leads not to let him down.
<BR>OK. &nbsp;You got me there. &nbsp;I should not have said "the expected verb" but rather "the expected form." &nbsp;I would have expected another participle. &nbsp;Construing it as you do may make perfect sense (I do not deny that), but that doesn't mean that is what we have before us. &nbsp;It seems that what we have is a contrast between "coming and seeing" and "being absent and I hear." &nbsp;These constitute a sort of parenthesis before the result (introduced by hOTI) is reached. &nbsp;The whole - both the parenthesis with the EITE . . . EITE clause and the result clause introduced by hOTI constitute the purpose which is completely achieved in STHKETE, "that you may stand . . ." &nbsp;The point of the EITE . . . EITE clause is that it doesn't matter whether it is his personal observation or the report that he hears - he wants them to stand. &nbsp;I agree that he does not want them to let him down - which desire they will satisfy by standing.
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