[b-greek] Re: Ephesians 4:26

From: Moon-Ryul Jung (moon@sogang.ac.kr)
Date: Tue Mar 26 2002 - 18:36:45 EST

> > > > ORGIZESQE KAI MH hAMARTANETE -- Ephesians 4:26
> > >
> > >
> > > Apparently, "ORGIZESQE" couldn't be taken as a command in this case. I
> > > think a more normal structure in Greek would be "ORGIZOMENOI MH
> > > AMARTANETE": "Even when (occasionally) you get angry, try not to sin.".
> > >
> > ------------------------------------------------
> > > However, we must have in mind that participial structures have begun to be
> > > replaced by more analytical ones, in Paul's times.
> > >-----------------------------------------------
> >
> > Dear Manolis,
> > I am enjoying your posts. Thanks. Would you mind explaning the last
> > statement?
> > Are commands more analytical than participial clauses?
> >
> > Moon
> > Moon R. Jung
> > Sogang Univ, Seoul, Korea
> Dear Moon,
> I'm really happy for enjoying you with my posts. However, before being
> ironical, you should have taken into consideration the fact that Greek is
> my mother tongue: since KOINH, from which modern Greek is derived, is not
> to me a "foreign" tongue the way it is to you, let me assume that its
> vocabulary, grammar and syntax are much more familiar to me than they are
> to you, no?
> Now. Unless you try to be more specific and make clear whether you
> disagree or not (and why) with my assumption that "ORGIZESQE KAI MH
> AMARTANETE" is equal to "ORGIZOMENOI MH AMARTANETE", I'm afraid I can't
> give a satisfactory answer to the question of yours. However, I haven't
> said that "commands are more analytical than participial clauses", but
> that structures like "ORGIZESQE KAI MH AMARTANETE" (instead of the much
> more clear "ORGIZOMENOI MH AMARTANETE") should be interpreted as a result
> of the gradual replacement of the participial structures in later Greek by
> more analytical equivalents.
> Well, dear Moon, I hope I've managed to entertain you for once more.

Dear Manolis,
your contribution to the list is particularly appreciated because Greek
is your mother tongue. I know a Greek guy who is a computer scientist
as I am. He once was impressed by the fact that I read the NT Greek Bible.
He even told me to read some parts of it for him, as if he could not
it. He told me that he learned classical and KOINE greek as part of
school work for many years. So, I hope that I would learn much from
your intuition about the langauge.

About the question, I simply do not understand what "more analytical
mean. I would guess it means "more analytical SENTENCE structure". Do you
intend to mean "simpler structure" or something like that?

Moon R. Jung
Sogang Univ, Seoul, Korea

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